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Re: 1-Euro Houses

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Post by Scoundreller »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #96
bryanlarsen wrote: post #60

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Or maybe "$ house" just means somewhere no one wants to live. You can get a reasonable house in rural Saskatchewan without any fine print for under USD$20K. https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Cheap-Homes-For-Sale/SK.html?...

I'd buy it right now if it came with a free Canadian citizenship.

Saskatchewan has one of the more accessible immigration schemes: https://www.saskatchewan.ca/residents/moving-to-saskatchewan...

Best part is you won't even need to lie about wanting to stay in Sask!

Once you're in the country for 3 years, you can apply for citizenship. I think they take a year to process, but you'll get it if you were here long enough and didn't do anything stupid.

Re: 1-Euro Houses

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Post by Scoundreller »

alkonaut wrote: post #125
bryanlarsen wrote: post #60

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Or maybe "$ house" just means somewhere no one wants to live. You can get a reasonable house in rural Saskatchewan without any fine print for under USD$20K. https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Cheap-Homes-For-Sale/SK.html?...

Yeah I mean for $1 I expect a shed without running water but I expect most of the cheapness to be due to high fixed costs and low demand, e.g. because of a non-existent job market. Now that tons of people with good tech jobs can work from almost anywhere, I expect some of these remote locations to become quite poopular. I wouldn't mind spending summers in a shed in a remote part of Italy, for example.

> I wouldn't mind spending summers in a shed in a remote part of Italy

Just make sure it has A/C unless you're in the mountains.

Re: 1-Euro Houses

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Post by jefftk »

cortesoft wrote: post #159
my_username_is_ wrote: post #154

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Most housing in Somerville, and lots of the urban northeast, is made up of multistory apartments (sometimes referred to as "three deckers")

You can always build higher!

I see, you're using "new houses" to mean new buildings, and "new homes" to mean new units.

Re: 1-Euro Houses

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Post by mr_toad »

pantalaimon wrote: post #132
api wrote: post #91

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Add to this the fact that governments (at least in the US, and in many other countries) have made it clear that housing won't be allowed to fall. This combined with money printing means the price is almost guaranteed to rise. The reason is that for most homeowners their home equity is the majority of their savings, and homeowners vote in higher proportion than renters (on average). Any politician that allows home val…

> There is one way out of the housing price trap: telework plus ubiquitous broadband via things like 5G and Starlink. I don’t buy that. People don’t like to live in cities primarily because of jobs, but because living in cities is fun. People like to be close to other people, exchange with others and their community. Living in a small town sounds depressing to me, no matter how fast the internet connection might be.…

> People don’t like to live in cities primarily because of jobs, but because living in cities is fun.

This is mostly only true of younger childless people. Once you have kids you can forget about having any fun for the next 15 years or so. And after that, well, how many 45 year olds do you see in nightclubs?

Re: 1-Euro Houses

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Post by toomuchtodo »

cortesoft wrote: post #159
my_username_is_ wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most housing in Somerville, and lots of the urban northeast, is made up of multistory apartments (sometimes referred to as "three deckers")

You can always build higher!

Anything over 5 stories gets expensive per sq ft quick.

Re: 1-Euro Houses

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Post by an_opabinia »

jefftk wrote: post #148
swimfar wrote: post #129

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"housing policy that enables massive amounts of new houses to be built" I think you mean "new homes". I don't think there's anywhere in the US with a housing crisis is due to new houses not being allowed. It's usually due to the difficulty in tearing down houses (and low-density apartments) and building higher density apartments. This may seem pedantic, but in these discussions the distinction is important. In almost…

I'm not sure what distinction you're getting at? I'm in Somerville Massachusetts, houses are very expensive, and the land is all built out. If you tore down a house, you would not be able to build as large a house in its place, in almost all circumstances. You definitely couldn't build a bigger one. What are you trying to get at with "new houses" versus "new homes"?

It’s funny because barely any houses in Somerville are up to code. It’s like less than 5%. So the regulations have achieved a double nothing.

Re: 1-Euro Houses

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Post by fomine3 »

abeppu wrote: post #85

People on this thread rightly point out that this isn't a great deal b/c the costs to actually get it to livable condition, along with conservation constraints might be quite significant. I think an interesting point of comparison is Japan's policies around abandoned houses, and efforts to try to prop up vanishing rural communities, where aside from repair/renovation and administration costs, the owner can also be ob…

A point in Japan is that property owner can't throw away own properties. So they need to sell unused properties to reduce property taxes.

Re: 1-Euro Houses

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Post by Aeolun »

pulse7 wrote: post #63
Aeolun wrote: post #53

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> they will - and I am not kidding or making it up - just kill your children Gonna need some form of source on that claim before I’ll believe it. This sounds like something that happened once, but not regularly.

This has been told by the people who relocated, because they were not willing to risk their children. Another example: if you start your business there, someone from "the family" will come after a while and tell you: "You need a secretary. And I have found one for you." Now if you reject them, they will go after you. This is why people are leaving. It would be a beautiful place to live, but because of this, people ar…

When I said source I meant something other than more anecdotes.

Re: 1-Euro Houses

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Post by ido »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #152
ido wrote: post #143

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Software just isn't a focus for the German economy, it's more industrial machinery & automotive. And Germany actually has among the highest amount of immigration in the world so not sure why you think they don't let people in. In my experience it is actually easier to move here than to the US (I'm an immigrant). The places where it's a problem are those that people leave, like Bulgaria and Romania. There are basicall…

I was speaking to Europe in general, but good to know about Germany specifically. I was asking about Europe generally because it seems like I’ve heard of a number of European countries struggling with declining populations in recent years, and if it’s a problem throughout the EU, then perhaps the EU would be better off by loosening its immigration requirements.

It's mostly a problem in countries that aren't doing well economically and thus their young people leave to other (mostly also European) countries.

You cant make immigration easy only in these countries as once you are in the EU you can then move to any other EU state (there is some wait required, like a year I think). So people will basically use these as a jump off point to the countries they actually want to go to (which do not lack immigrants).

I believe the solution is to invest in the poorer countries to make them attractive enough so that their diaspora wishes to return and young people don't want to leave en masse to begin with.

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