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Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

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This argument always confuses me, as if "it makes it easier to not pay our taxes" is a legitimate argument for using cash

It makes sense if you are immoral, amoral, or has started to actively distrust what you get for your money and try to "vote with your dollars". Some of that I'd call bad morals, but not necessarily morally inconsistent.

It also makes sense if you disagree with your government

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In the past month I've received four half-dollar coins as change, which is four more than I've seen in the past decade. It seems like stores are reaching the bottom of their coin drawers; using coins they normally wouldn't.

At work, we've all basically agreed that if we run out of change and can't get any more, that we'll bring in our own jars, count it out, and exchange it for cash. It's a last resort, for sure, but we've already discussed it. As of right now, we're limited to one roll of each denomination ($17.50) by our bank, so the need may very well eventually arise, and that means that some of my collection might just end up as so…

Or don't declare your collection. In fact, as the value of coins continues to rise, I would try to maximize (but not horde) my influx of coins, not willfully exchange them for a less-demand form of currency.

Remember, the concept of supply and demand is still valid even for currency marked with an official denomination. You could think of that marking as the _minimum_ value of the currency, as guaranteed by the state.

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If you only extract once a week from an ATM and pay in cash? No way.

I think you sre confusing "PII" and "data." The transaction does not identify you (generally), the ID on file for the account identifies you.

PII is more than just the classic SSN, name, and address etc. The IRS uses your last years tax data when verifying your identity for example. Your transaction history is PII as someone can correlate specific transactions to your identity.

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Often separating the coins isn’t necessary either. Because the value of a coin was historically the value of the metal it contained, many modern coin sizes still have a volume proportional to their value. US dimes, quarters, half dollars, and the old Eisenhower dollar coins are all $20/lb, for instance.

lb is a unit of force, not volume.

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For the past 4 weeks I was in North West Florida and it was almost impossible to get coins. I went to 3 grocery stores and they all denied me. Gas stations even had signs warning customers to use exact change. The credit unions in my network wouldn’t give anything out either.

Thankfully Loomis dropped a bunch off at my condo’s property management office. Most places told me they were only accepting new coins from the cash delivery companies due to COVID.

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This argument always confuses me, as if "it makes it easier to not pay our taxes" is a legitimate argument for using cash

Here in the UK, this practice is so common it has a name: "paying cash in hand". Its literal meaning is just paying cash for something, but its implied meaning is that the recipient won't declare it to the tax authority (HMRC), and you often get a discount for paying cash in hand (so I've heard, I've never actually been offered this myself). Of course we're talking about individual tradesmen here, like plumbers or ha…

Being paid cash in hand is usually how most teenagers get their first job too. If govt. clamped down on this then you'd see a lot of youngsters struggling to get onto the market, and I believe that's why they let it slide.

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Yup. Father in-law had this quarter collection. For whatever reason he spent decades collections quarters from each of the states and had well over $500 worth of quarters. None of us wanted his quarters. He was able to sell them at 3 quarters per dollar, a 25% profit!

That's a 33% profit. Anyhow, considering inflation, he still lost money.

Most hobbies cost money and have almost zero return.

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post #149

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Often separating the coins isn’t necessary either. Because the value of a coin was historically the value of the metal it contained, many modern coin sizes still have a volume proportional to their value. US dimes, quarters, half dollars, and the old Eisenhower dollar coins are all $20/lb, for instance.

lb is a unit of force, not volume.

On earth they readily convert. The size (historically) was determined by the volume needed to get that much mass. At one time payment was measured in weight as you could never trust the other person (or the person who fooled them) to not mix some less valuable metal on with their coins. Those days are mostly gone but the history is weight (which on earth is the same as mass) is important not volume.

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My mom took change into her metro area bank last week because they were giving 10% over face value for change. She got an extra $9. Nobody keeps change as an investment, but compared to interest rates the bank was offering on savings accounts, this was an incredible return. I'm curious if anybody with accounts at other banks tried withdrawing change to deposit in this bank?

Yup. Father in-law had this quarter collection. For whatever reason he spent decades collections quarters from each of the states and had well over $500 worth of quarters. None of us wanted his quarters. He was able to sell them at 3 quarters per dollar, a 25% profit!

Depending on the age their might have been more value to collectors. Some coins contain far more than face value worth of metal
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