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Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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distrill wrote: post #100
o_____________o wrote: post #52

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I would love to migrate from headless Wordpress + Gatsby to this when you start supporting React. Wordpress has a new editor I was hopeful for, but it's a nightmare.

I've only used it very briefly, but I thought it was nice to use. What do you dislike about it?

The developer experience and infrastructural decisions are insane. Things may have changed since last year, but WP would throw user-level exceptions if the layout from any react component changed, and the components are expected to output an array of deprecated and current output. Meaning if your React component changes one CSS class, the user sees an unrecoverable error, and your component needs to emit the previous and current markup to satisfy the renderer. There wasn't even a developer mode to disable this. Then the component-level user input is stored as an HTML comment inside the markup. So many other problems, plus all of the existing WP issues with plugin security and a bloated, inelegant managed service.

One of my teams implemented everything thinking these were rough edges that would eventually be ironed out, but realized too late that WP is making terrible decisions and is stuck in a 2005~ mindset. Github issues are filled with the poor souls tasked with enterprise implementations meeting Automattic's (presumably overwhelmed) indifference.

It's frustrating because to my knowledge there aren't any enterprise grade WYSIWYG CMSes that let you freeform edit/rearrange React in-place – this is or was the closest as far as UX is concerned.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by replwoacause »

Really impressive work! Is there any chance this can be used to a create a front-end that can connect to data sources like APIs and databases (almost like a Retool that lets you build a web app instead of internal business tools)?

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

molsongolden wrote: post #152
mmmateo wrote: post #2

Hi HN. primo is an IDECMSCLSSG (short for IDE, CMS, Component Library, Static Site Generator) I’ve been working on for a few months. The idea came from wanting to host a Notion page at a domain name and not being able to. Once I made the initial version - a basic text editor - the rest of the features just came naturally (except for the SSG, which came from not wanting to deal with hosting). I’d written off freelance…

Mateo, have you thought about adding an email signup for people who would like to receive occasional development/feature updates?

I hadn't, but there's one up now. Thanks for the suggestion.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by divbzero »

mmmateo wrote: post #2

Hi HN. primo is an IDECMSCLSSG (short for IDE, CMS, Component Library, Static Site Generator) I’ve been working on for a few months. The idea came from wanting to host a Notion page at a domain name and not being able to. Once I made the initial version - a basic text editor - the rest of the features just came naturally (except for the SSG, which came from not wanting to deal with hosting). I’d written off freelance…

Your terms mention possible “paid products” for Primo. What sort of products do you have in mind? I’m curious to hear how, like WordPress, Primo could be financially sustainable while building a strong open-source ecosystem.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

divbzero wrote: post #164
mmmateo wrote: post #2

Hi HN. primo is an IDECMSCLSSG (short for IDE, CMS, Component Library, Static Site Generator) I’ve been working on for a few months. The idea came from wanting to host a Notion page at a domain name and not being able to. Once I made the initial version - a basic text editor - the rest of the features just came naturally (except for the SSG, which came from not wanting to deal with hosting). I’d written off freelance…

Your terms mention possible “paid products” for Primo. What sort of products do you have in mind? I’m curious to hear how, like WordPress, Primo could be financially sustainable while building a strong open-source ecosystem.

Whoops, forgot to take that off from an earlier version that was intended to be paid. But I do have a couple ideas for getting funding without artificially limiting the product - the most immediate being corporate sponsors & enterprise support.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by tootie »

derefr wrote: post #69
tootie wrote: post #62

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This feels like such a ludicrous concept, but also I love it. I've recently fallen back into the world of building static marketing sites and the tooling is now so sophisticated, cheap and undifferentiated. We're solving the same problem over and over in very similar ways. I generally despise all-in-one solutions, but this use case actually makes a lot of sense at this point.

I don't know about ludicrous — this is essentially the same USP you get from Squarespace, Wix, etc., but just without the "and we host the resulting site for you" part. In trade for not doing the hosting, it becomes just a native app you can own, rather than a subscription service. Just need a commodity web host to slap it up on.

You're right actually. Lots of platforms do this. I just always hate it.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

blisseyGo wrote: post #159
squires wrote: post #8

I don't remember the last time I got such a chuckle out of a domain name, but this one is great.

I am actually curious how they got that TLD. When I try it on namecheap, it says Unsupported TLD: https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results/?doma...

iwantmyname.com sells them

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

dathinab wrote: post #145

I haven't looked into CMS since ~6 years or so but this pretty much what I would expect from a CMS in 2020. Through maybe it's focused a bit more then some other systems on (also) supporting a bit more tech savy people. But then in my experience even with CMS targeted a less tech savy people once a change needs to be done which is more then just changing the text it's always passed to the tech savy people anyway. Thr…

Correct. As far as I know there aren’t any other tools that do them in tandem. WordPress might be considered an IDE because you can edit the theme/plugins from the dashboard, but I’ve never seen anybody do that for legitimate reasons.

Re: Show HN: Primo – all-in-one IDE, CMS, component library, static site generator

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Post by mmmateo »

replwoacause wrote: post #162

Really impressive work! Is there any chance this can be used to a create a front-end that can connect to data sources like APIs and databases (almost like a Retool that lets you build a web app instead of internal business tools)?

Thanks! And I haven’t tried that use-case specifically but you can definitely fetch any data in a component’s JS and use it to populate its markup. Basically what you’d expect of a cloud IDE, but with the added benefit of managing the components individually.
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