US citizens warned they face arbitrary arrest in China

Post by JohnTHaller » Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 5:38 PM UTC

genoapol wrote: post #122

JohnTHaller wrote: post #105

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> Chinese authorities have the broad ability to prohibit travelers from leaving China (also known as ‘exit bans’); exit bans have been imposed to compel U.S. citizens to resolve business disputes, force settlement of court orders, or facilitate government investigations. Individuals not involved in legal proceedings or suspected of wrongdoing have also be subjected to lengthy exit bans in order to compel their family…

Sounds like what the US & Canada did to Meng Wanzhou.

Post by petre » Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

Karunamon wrote: post #81

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To be honest, as European I think China and US are pretty similar in many ways (propaganda, law enforcement etc). So said each country has their own problem but if anybody focus more on resolving their internal problem before teaching everybody how to live would be better. In this forum is very hard to discuss anything serious that doesn't follow the prevalent opinion that you get down votes without reason.

You're probably attracting downvotes because comparing China (show trials, double jeopardy, arbitrary and whim-based penalties) to the US when it comes to capital punishment is not even remotely accurate.

Post by praptak » Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 5:41 PM UTC

outlace wrote: post #93

I've visited China nearly every year for the past 6 years and never had any sort of issues. I thought all the security personnel I encountered at the airport, immigration, subway stations etc in China were very professional and respectful. In contrast to one of the last times I was returning from China to the U.S. and witnessed a highly unprofessional U.S. CBP officer who was yelling and berating incoming internation…

Post by rurp » Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 5:42 PM UTC

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Here's hoping the US isn't the one that collapses in on itself this time. My perception of China is that it's government makes life pretty terrible but it seems better organized over there (because of state control).

If we define a "collapse" as the rulers getting deposed by the opposition, then it happens in the US pretty often. When it happens in China things may get very messy.

Post by wendyshu » Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 5:43 PM UTC

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China's state-sponsored IP theft has been called the largest transfer of wealth in history. I'm honestly curious what the best diplomatic strategy is to combat it, other than declaring war.

It’s nothing new though. IP theft has a long and honorable history. It’s only recently that we have decided that it’s such a terrible thing, now that we own so much of the IP in question.