Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

Post by mooman219 » Sat, Jul 04, 2020, 8:03 AM UTC

jeffdavis wrote: post #155

Spivak wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t really think Google’s plan is that weird. And it would be amazing for decentralized networks, archiving, and offline web apps. Google can’t just serve nyt.com — they can serve a specific bundle of resources published and signed by nyt.com verified by your browser to be authentic and unmodified.

It's completely moving away from the client/server model to something else. Perhaps that's a great thing to do, but it's not something to do quietly.

Post by ffritz » Sat, Jul 04, 2020, 8:04 AM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #142

People have been railing against Google's Amp on HN for years, and I think I finally figured out what it's for. It's Google way of combatting phone apps. If all of the world's information — especially current news and similar information — moves from the open web into apps, then Google can no longer crawl, index, or scrape that information for its own use. The rise of the mobile phone app is a threat to Google on so…

Post by pwdisswordfish2 » Sat, Jul 04, 2020, 8:06 AM UTC

pdkl95 wrote: post #147

gregable wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While that's theoretically possible, the library can be inspected and does not do these things.

> the library can be inspected Really? Could you publish how you are inspecting an unknown program to determine if it exhibits a specific behavior? There are a lot of computer scientists interested in your solution to the halting problem . Joking aside, we already know from the halting problem[1] that it you cannot determine if a program will execute the simplest behavior: halting. Inspecting a program for more compl…

    def divisors(n):
        for d in range(1, n):
            if n % d == 0:
                yield d

    n = 1
    while True:
        if n == sum(divisors(n)):
            break
        n += 2
    print(n)

Post by ridiculous_fish » Sat, Jul 04, 2020, 8:10 AM UTC

tommek4077 wrote: post #111

ridiculous_fish wrote: post #77

It's wrong to trust the URL bar. For example, this search [1] has as top link an ad that boasts "google.com", and it really is! And if you click on it, you'll end up on a google.com site, which nominally helps with printers, but in reality it's a tech support scam. So much of the distrust here is that google wants to be everything: to host their content and publisher content and user content; to broker ads and recomm…

As an advertiser, you can write whatever you want into the url displayed there. This does not need to match the real target.

Post by DougBTX » Sat, Jul 04, 2020, 8:18 AM UTC

eternalban wrote: post #144

mulmen wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does centralizing content on Google from multiple sources improve decentralization? The web is already decentralized. That's why it is a web. AMP is a scourge. It's a bad idea being pushed by bad actors.

> How does centralizing content on Google from multiple sources improve decentralization? It actually makes perfect sense in Doublespeak. /s