Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic • Hacker News Board

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

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Post by foogazi » Sat, Jul 04, 2020, 2:08 AM UTC

akvadrako wrote: post #147

foogazi wrote: post #145

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Seeing a lot of comments doing the pandemic lockdown switch We are in lockdown because of the pandemic. Half the people don’t care, the other half don’t want to get it - the economy is affected until those percentages budge

That depends on what you mean by "because of". The pandemic is one factor that lead to the lockdown, but by itself it wasn't a sufficient condition; it was a free choice by politicians.

> That depends on what you mean by "because of".

A direct response to the global covid pandemic

> The pandemic is one factor that lead to the lockdown, but by itself it wasn't a sufficient condition; it was a free choice by politicians.

Do you think there was another reason for the lockdown besides slowing down infections?

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

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Post by ethanbond » Sun, Jul 05, 2020, 9:42 PM UTC

rohitb91 wrote: post #33

ethanbond wrote: post #20

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Potentially a factor, but don’t you also think widespread unemployment and general trauma - collective and individual - could play a role?

Were the drug addicts the ones that were employed beforehand?

There are plenty of gainfully employed drug addicts. You may even know a few.

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

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Post by sershe » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 2:23 PM UTC

foogazi wrote: post #145

gdubs wrote: post #115

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The lockdowns? The linked interview doesn’t mention lockdowns once — it talks about the effect of the pandemic . They go even further to say that it’s not so much money that’s the concern right now — it’s the supply chain. Critical, essential services aren’t being shutdown with lockdowns. They’re being shutdown because people are getting sick — like the food processing plants in the US, where people work in very clos…

Seeing a lot of comments doing the pandemic lockdown switch We are in lockdown because of the pandemic. Half the people don’t care, the other half don’t want to get it - the economy is affected until those percentages budge

That doesn't really follow. If we are burning down a house to get rid of ants, the house didn't really get destroyed by ants.

And, it's quite obvious from the reality on the ground right now, as I said a month ago when it was becoming obvious, that pandemic by itself would have basically no effect on the economy.

1) Most working age people face very low risks. Shutting down plants because someone there got covid makes about 5-10 times more sense than shutting down plants because someone got the flu, but 5-10 times of almost 0 is still almost 0.

2) Even with constant fear mongering in the media and from the govt, people do not care. I've gone to sit down restaurants 4 times in the last couple weeks. 20 minute wait, we left to another almost full one; almost full; 60 minute wait and we left to get takeout; 20 minute wait. They are overflowing. Local tourist town was extremely crowded last weekend. Parks are crowded. There are traffic jams on the road going to/from the mountains (Hwy 2, WA state). The demand would totally be there if it were not for the lockdowns.

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

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Post by g0rbongler » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 9:45 PM UTC

magicnubs wrote: post #158

g0rbongler wrote: post #113

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I'm not op but here's a sampling of a toolkit that's worked well for me. The 3 dimensions of sobriety are about BODY, MIND, and SPIRIT. A) PHYSICAL SOBRIETY 1. Go to AA/12-step meetings daily. 90 meetings in 90 days is a great first start. It's easy, free, all you have to do is show up. Get a sponsor, work the steps. It's the largest community of people who all never wanted to be there either. 2. EXERCISE! Can't stre…

How many people can afford a personal trainer and a therapist while not having a job?

it's a good question, only a few are so fortunate, i imagine