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The End of the Redis Adventure

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Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by starkruzr »

jp_sc wrote: post #114
throwaway894345 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Isn't this overt racism, sexism, ageism, etc? > Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group

Of course it is, but it's the kind of bigotry nowadays some people evangelize as good (by redefining racism), and what the twitter mob encourages.

"Racism" against white people in the US is completely devoid of systemic material consequence. Understanding definitions isn't about "mobs" or even ideology, it's about identifying what happens in incidents of racial bias and why those things happen.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by dvirsky »

eric_b wrote: post #50

So they're moving to a new "community based", "light governance" model. [1] There are plenty of problems with BDFL-style projects, but I think there are a lot of advantages too. Redis is unique in my experience in that it works the way you'd expect - it doesn't cause outages, it is fast, and it has a vanishingly small number of gotchas. The feature set is well curated and for the most part fits together cohesively. T…

The one drawback of the BDFL model is that you need a person, and a very specific kind of person at that, which tends to be irreplaceable - to sustain it.

Redis has succeeded because of antirez. I really wish it can continue doing so for the long run without him. More than anything it reminds me of Steve Jobs' death (although gladly this is in much happier circumstances and I wish antirez many more decades of hacking). It's true that a decade later Apple is still doing great, but you just know things would have been different if he was still around.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by mrkurt »

calpaterson wrote: post #86
eric_b wrote: post #50

So they're moving to a new "community based", "light governance" model. [1] There are plenty of problems with BDFL-style projects, but I think there are a lot of advantages too. Redis is unique in my experience in that it works the way you'd expect - it doesn't cause outages, it is fast, and it has a vanishingly small number of gotchas. The feature set is well curated and for the most part fits together cohesively. T…

> The most important thing Antirez did, in my opinion, was to say "No" to things. No to new features that didn't make sense. Redis has had tremendous mission creep over the years. It started of course mostly as a volatile cache but I've now seen it also used as a message bus (in three different ways: BLPOP, PUB/SUB and Streams), for service discovery and as a general purpose database - something that Redis Labs (in m…

It didn't really start as a volatile cache, it started as an in memory data structures server. It's useful for all kinds of stuff memcached isn't (and has been since day 1).

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by core-questions »

aboringusername wrote: post #54
eric_b wrote: post #50

So they're moving to a new "community based", "light governance" model. [1] There are plenty of problems with BDFL-style projects, but I think there are a lot of advantages too. Redis is unique in my experience in that it works the way you'd expect - it doesn't cause outages, it is fast, and it has a vanishingly small number of gotchas. The feature set is well curated and for the most part fits together cohesively. T…

It's an interesting proposition. Whether it's Python, Redis, Laravel or Linux itself, a lot of software projects have been driven primarily by singular people and their decisions which shape the project over a period of time. One example that was mentioned in this thread was the whole "master" thing going on. Is Torvalds really going to get involved in that? Most likely no, and that's a decision he's free to make. I…

> Or maybe you see an old white guy in charge of Linux and that can be considered a problem in itself

Why is that a problem?

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by niftylettuce »

Absolutely love your work @antirez. Also appreciate your blog.

Using Redis to handle greylisting on a custom Node.js backed email forwarding service:

https://github.com/forwardemail/free-email-forwarding/blob/0...

Also using it for job scheduling (with clustering support on top of Bull):

https://github.com/forwardemail/forwardemail.net/blob/master...

So many things you can do with Redis :tada:

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by dehrmann »

wokwokwok wrote: post #35
JamesSwift wrote: post #21

Dang. I say this frequently both online and when discussing system design with newer devs, but will repeat here: of all the production issues I've debugged, the culprit has has never been redis. In fact, redis has been a critical piece of achieving cost-effective scaling. It is one of only two pieces of software (along with postgres) that I blindly recommend without any caveats. From following along here and on your…

Redis is simple. Good. Has a nice api. Has good libraries. Single threadsed. Extremely hard to scale. Impossibly difficult to cluster in containers because it uses hard coded ips to address nodes. Performs poorly with large payloads. Doesn't run on windows properly. Is extremely expensive as a hosted service (orders of magnitude in some cases, eg. azure). You'll love it until you don't. The scaling and clustering sto…

I only used it once, but it's clustering story was bad, and I never really understood the niche it filled between Memcache and databases.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by jacquesm »

antirez wrote: post #78

Ok, so many thank you here, thanks! It's very nice to read the comments here. But I hope to interact more on HN, since basically the idea is to write more blog posts, write more OSS software too. Just totally random :D I'll just do whatever every morning I want to do for a long time. Then maybe I'll find a new long term interest.

Hello Salvatore,

I normally don't write about what I come across during my work, but in aggregate I can tell you that Redis, Linux and MySQL are the most common recurring elements across 150+ jobs looking at different companies, and using it rarely if ever leads to trouble.

So even if I don't use it myself directly quite a few of the companies we have invested in do, and an indirect 'thank you so much' is well deserved. I am very curious what it is that you will do next besides blogging. Linus had 'git' as his second major project, arguably it has had just as much effect on the world of free software as Linux did, you've definitely raised the bar for yourself :)

Much good luck!

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by ksec »

antirez wrote: post #78

Ok, so many thank you here, thanks! It's very nice to read the comments here. But I hope to interact more on HN, since basically the idea is to write more blog posts, write more OSS software too. Just totally random :D I'll just do whatever every morning I want to do for a long time. Then maybe I'll find a new long term interest.

Thank You so much for Redis. Looking forward to your next project or hacking around existing OSS project. May be CRuby or Lua given you like both languages?

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by adeeshaek »

antirez wrote: post #78

Ok, so many thank you here, thanks! It's very nice to read the comments here. But I hope to interact more on HN, since basically the idea is to write more blog posts, write more OSS software too. Just totally random :D I'll just do whatever every morning I want to do for a long time. Then maybe I'll find a new long term interest.

Huge thanks!

Redis is simple and straightforward and a joy to use. Best of luck :)

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by jessaustin »

nuclearnice1 wrote: post #88
r_police wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to be that guy but, why are you posting comments that lead to topic derailing that add nothing to the discussion?

Agree. I’d like to thank conjectures, brodouevencode, Bjartr, kungtotte, m0xte, fidelramos, chii and pokot0 for their contributions, but gently suggest none of the jokes were really that funny. Said well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609289

Since we have a norm that those who post unfunny jokes shouldn't complain they are downvoted, we should also have a norm that those who don't like jokes should just downvote without comment. Of course, I'm violating the obvious meta-norm...
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