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Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by rhodysurf »

rbrtl wrote: post #126
waheoo wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you dont. People with more users have more word of mouth network effects. Thats not much of a choice. Either participate, or be locked out and lag behind the competitors. The problem here is that Apple is both the platform and the distribution network, when we know very well, computers work just fine with a distribution of power its pretty silly to argue anything counter to that. Id love to see mac users round her…

Reaching people is not your right. This is the fallacy that social media has taught a generation. > Id love to see mac users round here survive on mac os with nothing but the app store. You're moving the goalposts here... Anyone can publish outside the App Store, I thought this was a conversation about publishing ON the Apple Store?

That’s his point... on iOS you can’t publish outside of the App Store, which cripples it as a platform

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Post by Red_Leaves_Flyy »

snarfy wrote: post #159
andy_ppp wrote: post #92

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I have this horrible feeling that you'll soon buy the government you want; Amazon or Facebook Gov is a terrifying idea: "do you want to add on the international development budget for £14.99 per month". I wonder if it would be better than what we currently have?

Representative democracy doesn't really represent me. I want to go online and fill out a long, myers briggs like personality test that judges my political leanings, and then have that data fed to a script that votes on all the issues for me directly, skipping the middlemen. Collectively those scripts would be a far better representation than any human. Replace all politicians with tiny shell scripts.

There is not a person, alive, dead, or not yet born that I would trust to write such code.

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Post by kungato »

fsflover wrote: post #151
kungato wrote: post #147

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OT: why do you care which bank you're in?

Why would you allow Apple to decide which bank you must use?

My bank doesnt support Google Pay so I switched. Life is full of obstacles but we should go around them and not through them. Only person you hurt in your case is yourself. Or you didn't really want to bother with the whole thing anyway so you stopped at the first issue

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by withinboredom »

sabujp wrote: post #34

govt's need to catch up and start setting some rules. App stores have gotten so large that they essentially become like real estate or store space. You can't just have a few stores control all the means of distribution.

I imagine some cities already have laws around this for farmer markets, flea markets, etc. It would be interesting (and hilarious) if cities started trying to enforce those laws on Apple, like they did for taxes.

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Post by nicoburns »

rbrtl wrote: post #126
waheoo wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you dont. People with more users have more word of mouth network effects. Thats not much of a choice. Either participate, or be locked out and lag behind the competitors. The problem here is that Apple is both the platform and the distribution network, when we know very well, computers work just fine with a distribution of power its pretty silly to argue anything counter to that. Id love to see mac users round her…

Reaching people is not your right. This is the fallacy that social media has taught a generation. > Id love to see mac users round here survive on mac os with nothing but the app store. You're moving the goalposts here... Anyone can publish outside the App Store, I thought this was a conversation about publishing ON the Apple Store?

> Anyone can publish outside the App Store

Not on iOS they can't. Which is the entire point.

> Reaching people is not your right.

No... but a competitive market is in everyone (except the monopolist/oligopolist's) interest. Our entire economic model is based on the premise that markets are competitive. Thus in situation like this where a big player in a significant market is being anti-competitive, it is more than reasonable to complain about it.

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Post by gravitas »

kungato wrote: post #147
bnastic wrote: post #81

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> i can guarantee you that there are probably hundreds (if not thousands) of stories like that, with people getting shut down for no good reason, and having their business killed How about Apple telling me they don't like my business bank (a well known UK bank I've been with for 10 years) and simply refusing to set up the account. In a very cold, "go away already", manner. I wasn't going to kill the relationship with…

OT: why do you care which bank you're in?

As an American (banking system), I carefully choose which banks and credit unions I use based on a multitude of factors. Anecdotally many of my friends and colleagues are the same, the service and benefits (and hassles) vary greatly from one financial institution to another.

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Post by vetinari »

raverbashing wrote: post #102
jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #41

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Selling software to users? Did you time travel from 1999 or something?

Try doing any of the following to professional level with a web app: - sound editing/musical production - video editing/special effects - CAD/CAM/EDA - Mechanical/physics/electrical simulations - interfacing with custom hardware

> - video editing/special effects

Hollywood studios run on Linux (except Pixar, and granted, not with webapps), so it is possible. What's missing is the middle-ground, mass-market solution like Premiere/After Effects or FCP, though DaVinci Resolve is quite nice entry there.

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Post by maxlamb »

bsaul wrote: post #55
mpartel wrote: post #29

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Even if it weren't the only option, the sad reality is that, for most, it'd be financial suicide to not be on the App Store. Compare that to games on PC: even though competition has fortunately started to pick up recently, it'd still be madness not to publish on Steam. All platforms seem to naturally tend towards monopoly, with an enormous first mover advantage. I wish I knew of a solution :/

I disagree. there are so many constraints today imposed on developers, and so many risks by trying to develop innovating apps, that i think a new ios store would have a lot of interesting apps to offer. Also, for startups, making sure you have an alternative option to distribute your app in case it gets shut down on apple’s store makes it almost a guarantee that they’ll try to deploy on as many different stores as po…

But that's the thing, for iOS devices there is no alternative option, and it is not possible to have another option since Apple won't allow it.

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Post by dijit »

bnastic wrote: post #81
bsaul wrote: post #9

This kind of post infuriates me. As an iOS developer for 10 years, i can guarantee you that there are probably hundreds (if not thousands) of stories like that, with people getting shut down for no good reason, and having their business killed. It's now so bad people are refraining from trying out innovative business model or apps just because they think there could be a chance someone at apple validation wouldn't li…

> i can guarantee you that there are probably hundreds (if not thousands) of stories like that, with people getting shut down for no good reason, and having their business killed How about Apple telling me they don't like my business bank (a well known UK bank I've been with for 10 years) and simply refusing to set up the account. In a very cold, "go away already", manner. I wasn't going to kill the relationship with…

All the issues people have with apple can be applied to most corporations.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's abhorrent, but it's something you should think about.

I once tried to open a new bank account with my bank of 10y, and set up direct debit to it. The point was that I was going to pay my rent from that new account (both me and a roommate would pay into the account, and a direct-debit would go to the landlord).

I filed the paperwork, in person, and heard nothing, a week passed, I phoned the bank, they said call back tomorrow.

I did, "please call in a week".

Waited a week, "please call back next week"..

So I go in person to the bank, and I refuse to leave until they fix it- I was being pressured by the landlord, I couldn't take the keys of the new property until proof of direct debit was handed over.

I waited for 5hrs in the lobby, basically from a few minutes after the branch opened until the mid-afternoon. Eventually a teller decided to help me because none of the bank managers were going to look at it.

What was the problem? apparently because I had claimed to have an income on one of the forms they wanted proof. I had never been asked to delclare proof before; and bearing in mind that previously I had never declared any income on any account _and_ I had standing orders/direct debits coming from the account; this was also the account that was where my salary landed, the only account I'd had since I was 13.

I tried to give proof, I showed bank statements and payslips... contracts etc; but because the payslips were on my phone they didn't accept them, I asked if I could use a printer and they said no.

So, I walked across the street to Barclays, opened 3 accounts with my passport and a proof-of-address, set up all my direct debits in 1hr, transferred all my money and that was the end of it.

What pissed me off most was the lack of transparency on exactly /why/ they decided not to move forward, expecting me to just sit on my hands forever is not good.

Fuck you HSBC, that was nearly 10 years ago and I still fucking hate you.

er... my point is that corps can be fickle and you shouldn't trust any of them. Especially the ones that implore you to trust them.

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Post by ddalex »

rbrtl wrote: post #109
andy_ppp wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have this horrible feeling that you'll soon buy the government you want; Amazon or Facebook Gov is a terrifying idea: "do you want to add on the international development budget for £14.99 per month". I wonder if it would be better than what we currently have?

You have just inspired me. I've always wanted a political fiction to try and write in my spare time, this sounds perfect :)

Not sure if you've read Jennifer Government
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