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Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by xvf22 »

snazz wrote: post #14
myrion wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it happened live on air, they were clearly identified as CNN and willing to comply with police orders - making the police's claim laughable. I wonder what those officers were thinking, arresting a reporter on live camera.

(I'm a resident of the Minneapolis suburbs) At this point, from some of my friends in the city, it sounds like there just isn't much oversight at all---they've now been caught on video taking guns from people with valid licenses and now arresting the press. I don't think that we can effectively apply logic when the police system seems so disorganized.

They're organized but their goals and values are different than you think they are.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by wtallis »

sparkling wrote: post #52
Hamuko wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the US Constitution a sacred cow?

Yes

From the site guidelines:

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

A one-word answer to a question that was clearly probing for more details about your opinions is not an appropriate response.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by aljg »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #81
kmonsen wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The arrested reporter was black, there was another White CB reporter standing nearby that was not arrested. Perhaps it’s all coincidence. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arres...

The crew headed by the white reporter moved when police asked, they were behind “the line”. The crew that was arrested should not have been but it’s not the same scenario. Are you sure it’s as simple as “this guy was black”? If you aren’t sure it seems like a bad accusation to make.

The person you are replying to just pointed out the race of relevant parties.

> Are you sure it’s as simple as “this guy was black”? If you aren’t sure it seems like a bad accusation to make.

Come again? First, the post doesn't rise to the level of "accusation." In fact, it explicitly leaves open the possibility that it's a coincidence.

Second, should we just not mention statistically relevant variables? Not report on facts? Do you doubt that race played a factor in this specific case, or that it is often relevant?

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by kfrzcode »

monocasa wrote: post #45
ponsin wrote: post #20

from the description of the YouTube video > Black correspondent Omar Jimenez had just shown a protester being arrested when about half a dozen white police officers surrounded him. Is there any reason to assume racism? it looks like two other people in the camera crew got arrested and they don't look black. It looks to me like CNN is trying to play the race card to stir controversy when there are millions of other mo…

The other team a block away was white and didn't get arrested.

What source claims the other crew to be only a block away?

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by meragrin_ »

maest wrote: post #56
meragrin_ wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The producer and camera man were not so it was not strictly based on race. I just find it very convenient there is no other video of the arrest. They were probably the only camera crew around and the cops wanted them gone.

Convenient for who?

Either of them. CNN essentially controls the story. The cops could have thought they could have quietly gotten rid a potential source of trouble.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by 101404 »

nine_zeros wrote: post #142

China's installing surveillance to spy on citizens. We need surveillance to spy on the government because without it, we are dead ducks.

That would be a pretty good idea. Just need to come up with some way to limit access to only the own citizens for sensitive information. Maybe if only certain trusted people had access, and they would do it as their job, and then they would report their findings, and investigate wrongdoings they found, and then we would give them money to be able to read those reports about government wrongdoings... hm, how could we call those people?

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by bittercynic »

sasasassy wrote: post #130

I don't have an issue with this. Both the police and the reporters were calm and polite. The police told them they had to clear the street and instead of obeying the order they asked to let them know when they were going to actually walk down the street. Since they refused to obey the order they were detained and escorted out of the way. Being a reporter does not give you a free pass to disobey orders, specially duri…

On some level the people involved here were civil, but it seems like a pretty dire problem when the police want to get rid of journalists.

It would be great if the police could figure out how to serve the public in a way where they could be proud of their work and want the journalists to help the world see the good work they're doing.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by kindatrue »

voxic11 wrote: post #122
monocasa wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How is it legal for a police offer to arrest someone without any warning, without even telling them why they're being arrested, and without probable cause? Cops can hold you for some amount of time, generally around 24 hours without cause. > What are the repercussions for these officers for falsely arresting people? None > Do they suffer any consequences, or do they suffer no punishment for this injustice? No punis…

Note also that 24 hours usually doesn't include Sundays and holidays, often Saturdays are excluded as well. Meaning if you get arrested before a long weekend it could be 4 days before anyone legally has to consider releasing or charging you.

And then sometimes they forget that you're there

"Daniel Chong Drank Urine To Survive 5 Days In Holding Cell Without Food, Water"

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/daniel-chong-dea-urine-cell-5...

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by tinyhouse »

Miner49er wrote: post #157
tinyhouse wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What drugs are you on? What's the alternative you're suggesting then? Are you saying we don't need police and everyone can just own a gun and defend themselves when they need to?

I'm just pointing out facts. The police's purpose is not to protect people. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia Anytime a police officer tries to fight the system they are a part of, they always cease to become a police officer. They're forced out. The system doesn't allow "good" police to exist.

You're ignoring the question. You said you cannot be not racist if you're part of the police system. Yet you don't offer any alternatives.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by heraclius »

antoncohen wrote: post #158
monocasa wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How is it legal for a police offer to arrest someone without any warning, without even telling them why they're being arrested, and without probable cause? Cops can hold you for some amount of time, generally around 24 hours without cause. > What are the repercussions for these officers for falsely arresting people? None > Do they suffer any consequences, or do they suffer no punishment for this injustice? No punis…

> Cops can hold you for some amount of time, generally around 24 hours without cause. This isn't totally true, at least not for the casual use of "cause". Cops must have "reasonable suspicion"[1][2] to detain, during that detainment they can discover more information which creates "probable cause", and probable cause allows them to arrest. My guess is they were arrested for what is commonly called "resisting arrest"[…

In this case, in the video, Jimenez asks the police whether they'd like him to move somewhere else, they don't respond, and then they arrest him, so it is quite hard to justify the claim that they were resisting arrest even on that definition.
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