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Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by threeseed » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:11 PM UTC

MrJagil wrote: post #143

krapp wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It really is a public web space that is operated by a private company No, it isn't, any more than a store is a public space because it has windows the public can see into. You have to sign up for a Twitter account and accept their terms of service to post on the site. It's a private platform run by a private company for its own private business interests.

I think that’s a simplistic view. No one is arguing Twitter is comparable to a store with a display window. The reality is that Tweets are broadcasted to billions of people. It’s a new reality. It’s a newspaper where anyone and everyone is authoring anything, including presidents, and with the roll of a die, the message is amplified to a multiple of the expected audience. Twitter may technically be a private platform…

Newspapers have restricted what they publish for centuries.

They don't allow libellous, defamatory, salacious or inappropriate comments for example.

So it sounds 'new tech' hasn't really changed anything.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by HeroOfAges » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:13 PM UTC

wnevets wrote: post #32

Really curious to hear the rational from supposedly small government republicans

This isn't about moderation, or removing tweets or banning people. Twitter changed the content of The President's tweet. When they edited his content, they became a publisher. Had simply removed it, I think they'd still be ok, but when they changed the content, they risked losing their protections under Section 230.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by tarkin2 » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:13 PM UTC

evan_ wrote: post #42

wnevets wrote: post #32

Really curious to hear the rational from supposedly small government republicans

As much as there ever really were "small government republicans" there certainly aren't any today. "Owning the libs" is the only reason the current batch of conservatives gets out of bed in the morning. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nratv-dan-bongino-my-life-is-...

"Owning the libs": Politics is no longer about how best to manage the state.

It's about how to attack the vilified 'other side'. As long as Trump does that, he does no wrong with his supporters.

No longer a society discussing its management. More a cultural civil war. A country divided, weakened.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by evan_ » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:13 PM UTC

outworlder wrote: post #119

evan_ wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as there ever really were "small government republicans" there certainly aren't any today. "Owning the libs" is the only reason the current batch of conservatives gets out of bed in the morning. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nratv-dan-bongino-my-life-is-...

> Owning the libs We should call what it is. They working to make the lives of other US citizens as miserable as they can. Whoever does this is working against their own country. This is unpatriotic.

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

--Frank Wilhoit

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:14 PM UTC

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Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by w3mmpp » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:14 PM UTC

CyberDildonics wrote: post #104

w3mmpp wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "yep, no conservative viewpoints allowed here." At least it'd be clear if they said so, nothing worse than the current situation where they think it but won't say it because it'd be bad for business.

Are you implying that twitter doesn't allow conservative viewpoints or that obvious lies ARE conservative viewpoints?

I'm implying that twitter favor non-conservative viewpoints, tolerate them because obviously it's good for business, but do whatever they can, without getting caught, to favor more liberal viewpoints.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by ashtonkem » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:14 PM UTC

orblivion wrote: post #74

wnevets wrote: post #32

Really curious to hear the rational from supposedly small government republicans

Some of them disagree with this thankfully. But to be fair, I've seen a lot of supposed progressives on Twitter suddenly finding themselves very concerned with the rights of private businesses.

I’m not personally concerned with the rights of private businesses as much as I’m concerned about the unintended consequences of expanding government power.

And yes, that is a new position for me. These past few years have been quite the education about the downsides of federal power as a liberal.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by glennvtx » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:15 PM UTC

jtchang wrote: post #72

Sometimes I wonder why Twitter doesn't just ban his account like they would any other troll on the internet.

I would. After all the attacks against them he has made, I would have done it a long time ago.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by mrlala » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:15 PM UTC

pengaru wrote: post #92

What's surprising is how often I encounter fellow Americans mistakenly asserting the first amendment extends beyond government and into the private sector. It's like they've never even been to a movie theater where they need to shut the hell up or leave. And here we have a US president signing an executive order in response to being moderated on a web site after years of arguably excessive tolerance of his b.s. I'm n…

>I'm not sure how much more embarrassed I can get for my country.

Just wait until tomorrow, and the day after that, and the day after that...

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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Post by creato » Thu, May 28, 2020, 9:15 PM UTC

orblivion wrote: post #74

wnevets wrote: post #32

Really curious to hear the rational from supposedly small government republicans

Some of them disagree with this thankfully. But to be fair, I've seen a lot of supposed progressives on Twitter suddenly finding themselves very concerned with the rights of private businesses.

Uh... are "progressives" opposed to private businesses having rights?