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Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by zentiggr »

hprotagonist wrote: post #43
hpoe wrote: post #11

Anyone that responds to this thread legally agrees to surrender all intellectual property posted or mentioned by them in any manner on the internet messaging forum hackernews located at news dot ycombinator dot com, hereunder referred to as the interweb place, will be the sole property of hpoe and those he chooses to designate. These terms may not be modified, altered, or amended except with written agreement of both…

“But the plans were on display…” “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.” “That’s the display department.” “With a flashlight.” “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.” “So had the stairs.” “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Bew…

Perfect quote, Hiro :)

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Post by baxtr »

mholt wrote: post #44

Update from Disney: > The above legal language applies ONLY to replies to this tweet using #MayThe4th and mentioning @DisneyPlus . These replies may appear in something special on May the 4th! https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1254849654585323525 ... as if that's really any better.

Well, I believe, unfortunately, from a legal perspective they have to if they plan to use the reply for a marketing thing...

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by greenshackle2 »

saagarjha wrote: post #75
shadowgovt wrote: post #18

I've seen maker-spaces where a billboard was set up that automatically displayed a rolling marquee of tweets that had been sent with #TheMakerSpacesHashtag in the shop. ... can't help but wonder if the space put themselves at risk for being sued over a copyright violation if someone didn't like their tweet on that billboard.

How is that a copyright violation, though? The tweets are publicly available on the internet, and presumably the maker space is just showing the Twitter website like anyone could themselves…

Lots of songs are available on public radio broadcasts, that doesn't mean I have the right to remix them and play them in my concert hall.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by notechback »

ballenf wrote: post #86
mholt wrote: post #44

Update from Disney: > The above legal language applies ONLY to replies to this tweet using #MayThe4th and mentioning @DisneyPlus . These replies may appear in something special on May the 4th! https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1254849654585323525 ... as if that's really any better.

I love the precedent that Disney is setting here. Will be a little harder for them to argue against my Tweet next month: "Walt Disney World was awesome! Thanks to all the hard workers who made the day special. By replying to this Tweet, Disney Corp. hereby agrees to abide by the copyright laws in place as of the release dates of its motion pictures, instead of the longer dates obtained through perversion of the legal…

Ironically one of the things the 1886 convention was intended to counter was publishers printing works without permission. It was about AUTHOR'S rights. In subsequent versions this has been transformed in something very different.

Copyright was not always as it is today.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by lolc »

mschuster91 wrote: post #133
Frost1x wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much text in business has become the ever growing wrapper for: "As the writer, I get as much monetary value as I can or at least make you believe as such and you give up as much monetary value as possible, or at least as much as I can scare or deter you from seeking. I also have no responsibilities and all rights, while you have all responsibilities and no rights." It's simply expanded out a bit more and often gives…

You are right, the amount of garbage legal stuff has expanded - but mostly as a result of people doing shit they're not supposed to do. Let's take the email footer... and an email directed to the wrong person: in ye olde times, the recipient would go "not my crap, delete it" and that's it - but now, there is a real risk the recipient uses the information and publishes it, leading to monetary damage or penalties (e.g.…

The proposition that wrongly addressed mail used to be handled more discreetly is very dubious to me. I doubt it even holds for postal mail. It sounds a lot like the "people used to be more honorable" trope.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by unethical_ban »

>Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

No, they are not. They are claiming that anyone who replies to that specific tweet and uses that hashtag agrees to certain terms.

I think there is a difference - there is a level of intent associated with direct replies to a tweet vs. simply using the hashtag.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

usace wrote: post #129
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #68

Meh, they just want to use people's tweets for a starwars thing. I think they would already be allowed to per the twitter quoting rules (which I haven't read in years). The problem is the way it's worded sounds like it's coming from a legal/marketing/executive alien. Which I guess also ties into star wars.

I don't get the outrage, twitter is public and they want to use fan-created public tweets for some marketing thing. Who cares?

The outrage is that they said that by using a specific hashtag you are agreeing to something. Which taken by itself is outrageous.

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Post by nabla9 »

mhh__ wrote: post #154
nabla9 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The implementations are short and simple for easy reading, so they are not the most efficient or practical. Early versions of the code had bugs, so you should not use the old versions of the book.

The key is to do what Steven Muchnick did for his Compiler textbook: Write the algorithms in a made up programming language so no one can run them and find the bugs. I'm not being facetious, it's called ICAN, and as far as I can tell no compiler exists for it. Other than that it's a great book though, although maybe showing its age in that there isn't much discussion of OOO and ILP etc. And SSA.

Donald Knuth did it first. First with MIX, then with MMIX. http://mmix.cs.hm.edu/

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by shadowgovt »

Izkata wrote: post #108
shadowgovt wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're trying to CYA for future ad campaigns, but they can't actually CTA their way. No dice, Disney. The way this works is if you want to use the tweets shouted into the ether, you can, and if someone doesn't like it, they can sue you, and then the US (and probably international) law gets to figure out on your dime via the lawyers you will pay whether you misused the tweets. ... or, Disney does the not-lazy thing,…

They added a clarification tweet that it does indeed only apply to the replies to the original tweet.

It's a good clarification of their intent, but I don't think it puts them on legal ground that's any less shaky. They'd still have to prove users had any intent at all of complying with their TOS in undertaking a public action that is only tangentially related to Disney's little slice of Twitter (hell, they'd have to prove users were aware of the TOS to even be compliant or not), and good luck with that if it ever came to court.
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