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Zoom sued for overstating, not disclosing privacy, security flaws

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Re: Zoom sued for overstating, not disclosing privacy, security flaws

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Post by HenryBemis »

garmaine wrote: post #140
grugagag wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this sense yes, absolutely. China is known for doing grotesque humanitarian violations. In another sense such as starting a war to deflect from problems at home, theres one champ and that is our democratic country. Either one doesn’t mean the other is doing something legitimate and is waranted shielding from criticism

The US does not start wars to distract from problems at home. That’s conspiracy horse manure. Whether you want to believe it or not, every president that has ever started a conflict or US involvement in an existing conflict has felt the action justified on foreign policy reasons. Those reasons might be something you object with, or even downright stupid in hindsight. But only in Hollywood is it ever a smoke screen fo…

USA, Russia, Turkey, China do exactly that throughout history. It is also an indicator of a failed/non functioning democracy, this is what surprises me about the USA (it IS a functioning democracy). I understand Russia and Turkey (been to both countries) are democracy-challenged and instead of solving their internal problems they create new external to divert the attention and seek "greatness" (one of the things that Trump* also proclaims).

Humanity needs to be great together.

Together we stand, divided we fall (said the poet).

*I don't vote in the USA so I don't care who they/you elect. If it would be Clinton or Bush (Sr/Jr) or Obama saying "screw the world we should care only about ourselves" I would be equally judgemental (you should hear me discuss politics with Russians (they can't see why their dictator is bad for them) (and now I will get downvoted by both Americans AND Russians :)

Re: Zoom sued for overstating, not disclosing privacy, security flaws

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Post by garmaine »

HenryBemis wrote: post #161
garmaine wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US does not start wars to distract from problems at home. That’s conspiracy horse manure. Whether you want to believe it or not, every president that has ever started a conflict or US involvement in an existing conflict has felt the action justified on foreign policy reasons. Those reasons might be something you object with, or even downright stupid in hindsight. But only in Hollywood is it ever a smoke screen fo…

USA, Russia, Turkey, China do exactly that throughout history. It is also an indicator of a failed/non functioning democracy, this is what surprises me about the USA (it IS a functioning democracy). I understand Russia and Turkey (been to both countries) are democracy-challenged and instead of solving their internal problems they create new external to divert the attention and seek "greatness" (one of the things that…

Please point to an example of the USA engaging in a war as a distraction from domestic issues.

Re: Zoom sued for overstating, not disclosing privacy, security flaws

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Post by zkid18 »

jy2947 wrote: post #50

Don't know what is going on at Zoom, but I suspected at least part of it sneaky. For example, about 3 or 4 weeks ago I heard about this company, and learned that it has R&D in China per its SEC filing at IPO. However, checked its website, the career section led me to https://jobs.lever.co/zoom , and there was ONLY one opening at China per the website (I remember it was a position at marketing department). Then I sear…

What’s wrong with having R&D in China? The talent market is attractive and assuming Zoom founder is Chinese it seems more reasonable in some point compare to opening another office in US. Lots of big tech companies has strong R&D presence in China like MSFT, GOOGL.

Btw, I might be wrong but CCP banned Zoom about half a year ago.

Re: Zoom sued for overstating, not disclosing privacy, security flaws

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Post by thr0w__4w4y »

smoothgrammer wrote: post #78
UncleMeat wrote: post #51

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Yes it definitely is an "oops". I'm not excusing it, but offering an alternative explanation to the "zoom is evil" thinking. If zoom was truly trying to market themselves as e2e, why is this only buried in one document rather than shouted from the hills?

They claim HIPAA compliance due to e2e encryption. That is far from an oops. They updated their documents since, but last week they had documentation up that said they were HIPAA compliant due to end to end encryption.

Ooops. That sounds like it's going to hurt. If not, it sends the message "Hey, say you're HIPAA compliant, but it doesn't matter if you're not (wink wink)"

I develop electronics and firmware for medical devices, I have (almost) nothing to do with regulations compliance (except to the extent that I'm working on something where there is an intersection, like storage of patient data). But anyway, not a day goes by that I don't hear someone ask, "Is that HIPAA compliant?"

So yeah. Companies that have used Zoom based on that claim are probably going to extract some blood out of Zoom.

Re: Zoom sued for overstating, not disclosing privacy, security flaws

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Post by jamiequint »

fock wrote: post #160
jamiequint wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> otherwise we would sync our whole list of employees with 100s of services Could also have been created with SCIM and you're in a particular SCIM group that other folks are not in.

ok, that's interesting. And this is a really creepy thing from a privacy standpoint...

Not really, it's not your privacy if it's your work account/email.
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