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Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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post #84

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Mozilla Corporation is a for-profit company. Depending on the legislation it is sometimes forbidden to take donation, or at least very difficult/limited for company. Mozilla Foundation is the non-profit organization (and they do take donation).

They probably can take donations just fine but there is no tax deduction for the donor.

I'm going to start donating to Mozilla every month.

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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post #66

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Which ones? Eich donated like $1000 to a political group that (I would hope) most of us disagree with, but Eich != Mozilla, and he was removed because of the backlash

I'm a Firefox user but I'm doubtful about donating to the Mozilla Foundation. They at least endorse some really far-out organizations on the Mozilla Foundation homepage[0], such as Riseup Networks. [0] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/?utm_source=www.mozilla.or...

Riseup is absolutely with Mozilla's mission statement, though, and all things considered pretty good:

"Riseup provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change. We are a project to create democratic alternatives and practice self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communications."

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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post #68

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Nowadays you are the product even if you pay. (E.g. Subscription news sites including trackers on subscribed users, smartTVs siphoning data etc)

Thing is the TV's you're only half the customer. That's why the TV's have gotten so cheap, the extra revenue stream from selling data. You can't even buy a dumb TV any more.

My gas pump feeds me ads while I pump gas that I paid for.

T-mobile sends me ads over SMS that I paid for.

JetBlue serves ads to paying passengers on the seat-back displays.

I hear Windows has ads now, but I got off that ship a while back.

Being the customer is no longer sufficient; companies have figured out that they can make more money by charging you and serving you ads.

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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If you strace chrome on linux it also picks up /etc/machine-id (or it did back when I looked), which is a 32 byte randomly generated string which uniquely identifies you and on some systems is used as the DHCP ID across reboots.

firefor / tor also read this file

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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Ahh the good ol HN "stop using Google and start using Firefox" advertisement. It's a bit odd to see this in every Google thread. Btw, Firefox is too slow.

It's not odd at all. It's what the folks at Mozilla do. They jump in to every thread to push Firefox and Rust and make people think it's more widely used/better than it is.

I work for Mozilla?

Huh. I should ask for a pay rise...

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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If you strace chrome on linux it also picks up /etc/machine-id (or it did back when I looked), which is a 32 byte randomly generated string which uniquely identifies you and on some systems is used as the DHCP ID across reboots.

And this is a legal thing to do?

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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So, an extremely unique identifier for tracking purposes, that effectively no one knows exists, and no one knows can be changed at all? With an obscure white paper that allows Google to claim they comply with the law because "they totally offer a way to change that and they even published that information to the web for anyone to find"? Gotcha.

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Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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post #83

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Or just use Ungoogled Chromium, and get the performance advantage of Chrome without the tracking.

Is there a quick summary of what major site/features that will be unavailable in Chromium vs. Chrome? I assume, for example, that 'netflix' will be prominently on that list. Thanks.

I use Chromium; you can still Netflix. It does, however, require installation of "WideVine", which is an opaque, closed, binary blob. (But you're getting that with Chrome, too, I believe.)

You can also do Netflix in Firefox, through exactly the same mechanism.

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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When I moved into IT almost 10-15 years ago, Google was one of the companies that I adored (in a kind of naive way, but nevertheless..). Working at that company has always been a dream of mine. They had the reputation for hiring the best of the best engineers, with great benefits and work culture. Meanwhile I'd hate to apply for them. Everything they do in terms of tracking, etc. has become so vile and almost evil th…

We thought Microsoft was evil because of how they treated their partners and competitors. We didn't consider that a greater evil would arise, and all it would take was a disregard of the sanctity of personal privacy.

To my knowledge Google still hasn't done anything comparable to the worst offenses of Microsoft in its prime. These "tests" don't really help though.
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