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Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
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#162Ukrainian president doesn’t know why it crashed, Ukraine International Airlines doesn’t know the cause of the crash yet, but the embassy in Iran has already single handedly worked out it was an engine failure. Ok boomer -.-
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't you think it should take them at least a few days to determine a preliminary cause of the crash?
The pilots of the plane would be in constant contact with the nearest airport during and right after take-off, especially when there are technical problems. It's not hard to imagine the conversation would involve like:- PILOT: One of the engines has failed catastrophically, we need to make an emergency landing, can you clear the runway back in Tehran or is there another airport we can go to?
But such a statement wouldn't rule out anything. Catastrophic engine failures can be caused by missiles.
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
You mean the reputable journalists at BuzzFeed?
BuzzFeed is quite different from BuzzFeedNews which produces higher quality content. Very unfortunate naming and we go through that exchange on hn every time they get linked.
As we should. Reputation is the best tool we have for tracking credibility throughout society. As a pioneer of clickbait garbage, Buzzfeed has a deservedly poor reputation, and a little bit of brand diversification doesn’t change that. If the Sackler family started opening rehab clinics, it wouldn’t change my opinion on what a bunch of scumbags they are.
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#165A three year old Boeing 737-800, which does not have any known safety issues. It feels deeply implausible that this airplane would simply crash due to mechanical issues two minutes after taking off from Tehran just hours after Iran retaliated against the United States's assassination of General Qassem Soleimani, but then again there was also an earthquake in Iran just a few hours ago, so I guess maybe these things ju…
"Does not have any known safety issues" sounds like bit of a stretch, every airplane models has few safety issues at least. Issues range from faulty windshield wiper motors(I just checked and there is such one for 738), to "may spontaneously explode and kill everyone in and out". The problem is whether the prevalence and/or severity of issues are under control or not.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The 737-800 is a Boeing from a different era. Proper engineering.
But it was built 3 years ago. Does proper engineering prevent future failures if the assembly process becomes flawed at a later time? For example using cheaper materials, ignoring cracks, not properly training new employees etc.
...stray tools forgotten in the airplane after assembly, metal shavings close to cables... yeah, I read those articles too. However, the fact that the Iranian authorities already concluded that the cause was "engine failure for technical reasons" seems a bit suspicious.
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#167Just had maintenance. Could have been someone being lazy and left FOD in the aircraft that finally made its way into the engine.
Could be any number of things, but probably FOD.
Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#168Just had maintenance. Could have been someone being lazy and left FOD in the aircraft that finally made its way into the engine. Could be any number of things, but probably FOD.
For those not familiar with the term, FOD is "Foreign Object Damage" according to Wikipedia:
> The term FOD is used to describe both the foreign objects themselves, and any damage attributed to them.
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#169Happening hours after Iran's strike against bases in Iraq raises the obvious question: is this in any way related to the strikes or a coincidence? I'm guessing it'll be at least a few months before we hear about the why but I wonder if there will be additional focus on it due to the recent tensions.
We still haven't really agreed on who shot down MH17. It'll be quite a while before the truth gets out - if it ever does.
It's pretty much agreed on - the public acknowledgement of the conclusions by individual countries is plainly a game of politics.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aviate, navigate, communicate. They would have been rather occupied with the first two.
Good point. I concede. I'd still expect them to declare an emergency but it's possible that the event was so catastrophic they didn't find the time.
Its even fairly common, one guys is reading checklists and the other is, you know, flying the airplane.