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Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by missosoup »

bathtub365 wrote: post #157
missosoup wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're already driving on roads shared with garbage solution like tesla's '''autopilot''' this thing is no different other than the creators not being able to afford the regulatory bribe to deploy it.

It's a completely different product with a much wider number of configurations that end-users have to piece together from Wiki pages and packages they download themselves, loaded onto hardware they've installed in their cars with zero oversight from anyone qualified.

> end-users have to piece together from Wiki pages and packages they download themselves

Which makes it a ton safer than '''autopilot''' because by the time those users are done installing it they have a pretty clear understanding of its capabilities and limitations.

vs. the endless videos of morons driving tesla in '''autopilot''' mode with hands off the wheel because it's an incomprehensible black box of magical self-driving capability for them.

The regulator hasn't stopped tesla autopilot from causing accidents. It's just a competitive moat.

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by meowface »

gricardo99 wrote: post #76
godzillabrennus wrote: post #64

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Geohot is quite abrasive.

he's quite a character, surely abrasive to some. If you want a sample for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dgbrB7PZU

His interview with Lex Fridman was quite interesting: https://youtu.be/iwcYp-XT7UI

I like him, personally.

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by bathtub365 »

o-__-o wrote: post #158
bathtub365 wrote: post #152

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As someone who drives on public roads (and has family and friends who drive on public roads) this is a frightening comparison and attitude.

Next time you drive, look around you at some of the other drivers. The ones with cell phones in their hands are more dangerous than someone with a comma.ai dev kit. Fun story: I wanted to build a hypermilling coach/trainer system about 10 years ago and got to the point of having a poor mans ACC in a Scion. It didn’t brake though, only coasted to lose speed (thus requiring driver input). So I got the wild idea of tapp…

I agree, both cell phone drivers and people with unlicensed, untested, unregulated homebrew self-driving setups are dangers to everyone around them.

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by nl »

Fricken wrote: post #108
Nition wrote: post #104

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Well, the website says: > Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC) for compatible vehicles. It performs similarly to Tesla Autopilot and GM Super Cruise. openpilot can steer, accelerate, and brake automatically for other vehicles within its lane.

So nowhere, then.

What is Adaptive Cruise Control and Automated Lane Centering if it isn't self driving?

Notably, the NHTSA called out these exact features in their letter to Comma.ai: https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/28/comma-ai-cancels-the-comma...

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by tartoran »

alpb wrote: post #63
iMuzz wrote: post #19

Quick bit of feedback for any Comma employees lurking: It took me a very long time to realize that this was a self-driving solution for existing vehicles. The hero just says "Driven over 6 million miles" and then a "Buy Now". When I scrolled down and looked at the product and read: > We’ve added an infrared camera to provide 24/7 driver monitoring, an integrated panda, a custom cooling solution, and an OBD-C port wit…

Count me in as well. I came here to make that comment. I've had to scan the entire website and still cannot find a reference to a simple term like "self-driving" anywhere in the website. It seemed like a dashcam that warns the driver.

On the 3rd scrolling down "page" OpenPilot , there is a hard to see link "See OpenPilot in action".

When I watched the videos it made it clear what it does, i was lost before that.

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by nl »

ehaisnfn wrote: post #91
awal2 wrote: post #39

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When somebody installs Linux on their computer without knowing what they are doing they might make break their computer. When somebody tries to install after-market self-driving equipment in their car without knowing what they are doing they could easily kill people.

That's really a bullshit comparison. It either works, or it does not. That's quite literally the same as oem systems. It either works, or throws an error and does not.

It either works, or throws an error and does not.

It controls your throttle and steering so it appears there may be other errors that could occur.

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by throwawaymath »

misiti3780 wrote: post #125

Serious question: is 80K-130K for a data science position competitive in the San Diego area? Feels a bit low to me but I live in NYC. https://comma.ai/jobs

Considering the people they're explicitly looking for, according to that page:

> People who have done well at math competitions (USAMO, IMO, PUTNAM), competition programming (ACM, USACO, codejam, topcoder), science fairs (ISEF, STS), or capture the flag (DEFCON, secuinside, GITS). Those competitions don't just select for ability, they also select for quickness. We are in a very competitive space.

...it's absurdly low. Companies like Google hand out close to $200k total, liquid compensation to new grads who haven't placed in any of those competitions. The people who have ranked in any of those (especially the math ones, and doubly so the Putnam) can easily write their ticket to a job paying double $130k right out of college.

Anyone with that kind of competitive math/programming experience and real world machine learning engineering experience could earn triple that range if they wanted to. That's a ridiculously small and competitive set of candidates to be targeting. It's also not necessary, because strong performance on the e.g. IMO doesn't a priori map to outperformance, on a per dollar basis, writing autonomous driving logic.

Basically: no it's not competitive for San Diego, Comma is asking for wildly overqualified people to sacrifice significant amounts of money to work there, and it's not clear they should be using those kinds of qualifications as a filtering criteria in the first place.

This kind of cargo culting does not inspire confidence in their recruiting.

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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Post by chris11 »

o-__-o wrote: post #158
bathtub365 wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who drives on public roads (and has family and friends who drive on public roads) this is a frightening comparison and attitude.

Next time you drive, look around you at some of the other drivers. The ones with cell phones in their hands are more dangerous than someone with a comma.ai dev kit. Fun story: I wanted to build a hypermilling coach/trainer system about 10 years ago and got to the point of having a poor mans ACC in a Scion. It didn’t brake though, only coasted to lose speed (thus requiring driver input). So I got the wild idea of tapp…

> but it’s still operating within the bounds of the factory electronic steering

That's Comma AI's approach. Their hardware spoofs the stock computer so it can send commands to the car's active safety systems. So there are some stock limitations, like the steering torque, that openpilot doesn't bypass.

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