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Re: The Light Phone

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For about $50 you can (still) get a Nokia 3310.

Be careful with this. AT&T shut down its GSM network 3 years ago. The ~only unlocked LTE feature phone I could find a year or two ago for my grandma (who wouldn't be able to learn how to use a smartphone) was an Alcatel Flip 2.

There's a 3G variant of the Nokia.

Re: The Light Phone

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I think it's in the zeitgeist a bit now. Some people (I'm certainly one) are looking to unhook from their phones - get away from convenience and immediacy and... the internet in general (typing this from Emacs, so it seems more forgivable!). I know at least 5 people - a large percentage of my close network ;) - who would be interested in this device. I'm sure there's a big enough market for it if the execution is rig…

But you can just buy a feature phone now? There are decent ones from Nokia.

But then people cant see you are disconnected ;) They might think you are cheap or dont like tech.

Re: The Light Phone

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post #76

Feels like a solution looking for a problem to me. Not only are phones trending away from being "phones" (rather portable internet terminals) but I'd wager the largest portion of smartphone use is content consumption, rather than content creation/collaboration. Both of which would suggest this device is a long, long way from product-market fit.

I can see this phone being a great fit for certain markets, such as senior citizens who like to talk on the phone, but who get baffled by the complexity of modern smartphones.

I can't see any fit for any person outside of bragging rights. A senior citizen would be better served by a Nokia 3310, which actually has physical buttons.

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You don't really have that choice. Many social apps (Facebook, Instagram, Twitter) aren't possible to uninstall unless you use a custom ROM. You can only "disable" the apps. It's still perfectly possible to just not open them/log in, obviously.

Are you sure about that? On an iPhone I can delete three of those apps (just verified). Android doesn’t allow the same?

Unfortunately it's complicated. There are many OEMs, and each configures things to their liking. Then there are carrier branding deals which (often) result in per-carrier customizations on top of that.

Typically, "uninstallable" apps can be disabled via adb commands if you don't want to (or can't) flash a custom ROM. Sometimes they can't however - for example, Amazon sells subsidized phones that display advertisements on the lock screen.

Re: The Light Phone

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I can understand the sentiment of being "fed up" with the state of current phone technology, but rather then bringing back dumbphones (see also Nokia's current product range), why not make phones that have headphone jacks, removable batteries, microSD card slots, IPS displays, et cetera. The features that were "removed" to presumably promote consumerism.

Re: The Light Phone

#167
post #148

Why not just have one phone, instead of a Global phone and a North American phone?

A single chip which supports more LTE bands is more expensive.

Is that an issue when the phone is $350 already? They're clearly not aiming for low-end users here.

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You don't really have that choice. Many social apps (Facebook, Instagram, Twitter) aren't possible to uninstall unless you use a custom ROM. You can only "disable" the apps. It's still perfectly possible to just not open them/log in, obviously.

Are you sure about that? On an iPhone I can delete three of those apps (just verified). Android doesn’t allow the same?

Sadly, it depends. Many manufacturers have deals in place with Facebook, etc to prevent the un-installation of these apps. At best you can "disable" them completely, achieving the same effective result. Any downloaded updates to the app will be removed and it will be _supposedly_ incapable of running in the background. I suspect however that there are also other e.g. Facebook services running in the background that need to be explicitly disabled with Android running in developer mode.

This isn't a problem if you have a rooted device, but root is difficult/impossible to obtain on certain devices (like Samsung's Galaxy 8 onward) due to enterprise level tamper-proofing.

Having said all that, I just got an unlocked Pixel 4 and it has zero of that bloat. If you happen to consider the Google services themselves bloat/tracking (they often are), rooting is fully supported which allows you to install an Android distribution without any Google services.

Re: The Light Phone

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post #156

Do the makers think that there's a sizeable portion of people that hate their iPhones or Galaxies and want to spend $350 on a phone that doesn't do things? Doesn't do social media, doesn't do email, doesn't do news. Most consumers would at this point ask "What's the fucking point?" Smartphones are popular because people want to do the things that they enable. You probably need to live in some sort of a niche social c…

For even simpler and smaller, get a Nokia 130[1].

[1] https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/nokia-130

Re: The Light Phone

#170
post #91

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I think it's in the zeitgeist a bit now. Some people (I'm certainly one) are looking to unhook from their phones - get away from convenience and immediacy and... the internet in general (typing this from Emacs, so it seems more forgivable!). I know at least 5 people - a large percentage of my close network ;) - who would be interested in this device. I'm sure there's a big enough market for it if the execution is rig…

Here's the main problem: I am the target market and I can easily just make my Android phone behave in this manner. I rarely touch it except to read on the Kindle app and cast to the TVs.

I don't think you're the target market in that case. This phone would be for people who desperately want to reduce their phone usage but lack the willpower.

Not saying that's a large market, but I do think it exists. At the 350$ price point though it seems more like it would be for wealthier people looking to signal that they're part of a sort of "offline" movement.

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