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Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

#161
Samsung Smart TVs do not take screenshots as far as I know. They do audio and video fingerprinting. It would be way too costly and inificient to upload screenshots for content recognition (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_content_recognitio...).

Disclaimer: I work for Samsung, but not directly in the TV software.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

#162

Few reasons why I prefer dumb TVs, just a flat LED panel: 1. You have control over bullshit like this 2. You can make them smart by attaching the external box 3. You don't have to throw the TV because your Software is now old, just change the box. 4. There's new format which requires hardware support (av1 is coming), change the box. 5. Want to add new hardware? Upgrade the box.

My TV software gets updated. Have gotten noticeable improvements.

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Wait until 5G rolls out into mass adoption where an IoT modem is built into every TV for “diagnostics”

What makes 5G so much different than an LTE modem for this type of application? If they were going to do this why wouldn’t it already be happening with LTE.

Funny enough, 5G is not much better than 4G other than 1000x device density. There is no 1000x increase in population on the horizon, but IoThieves is around the corner.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

#165
I'm getting ready to go full Battlestar Galactica in all of my appliances. It's now difficult to find high end washers and ovens without these features.

At least right now we can choose not to connect the devices, but what happens if iot LTE connections get cheap enough that the choice is removed altogether, like with Tesla and other high end modern cars?

I don't think I'm just being a Luddite. This really seems like a bad idea. We need some way to assure security and limit data collection.

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In a word: lobbying.

Corruption. FTFY.

Fair enough, that's another good name for it. Lobbying is legalized corruption in many ways, especially in those fields where the politicians of today are the industry captains and lobbyists of tomorrow and vice-versa. This incestuous relationship is the root of much that is evil.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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post #105

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Wait until 5G rolls out into mass adoption where an IoT modem is built into every TV for “diagnostics”

What makes 5G so much different than an LTE modem for this type of application? If they were going to do this why wouldn’t it already be happening with LTE.

Everyone is all hyped up about 5G and its "potential" for IoT which means carriers could offer cheaper plans making it viable for these devices to come with a cellular connection out of the box.

But I agree, on a technical level, 5G isn't necessary for this. In fact, given the low data rate and non-interactivity of it (it doesn't really matter if the screenshot takes 10 minutes to transfer) they could even get away with GPRS or EDGE.

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People like subsidized stuff. People who subsidize things like to do it only when they are paid more than the subsidies they give and they are paid based on who they subsidize because the people who are paying the subsidizers must go to the subsidized people and take their money for the subsidies. It's a rock-solid business model with a requirement to know your customers, it's not going away unless a better alternati…

This is specifically about privacy, which relates to targeting and tracking, not all ads. Most user data is completely useless to advertisers, but there is a mania for it right now. Perhaps it will end when ML people from CS backgrounds learn Bonferroni.

How I see it is an optimization problem about paying a downpayment to get your device and after that paying instalments through purchases of unrelated goods and services down the line.

The advertisement agencies are the creditors and the debt collectors and they try to optimize for accuracy of targeting. The more accurate they are the ticker is their margins.

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#169
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Ads, baby. Everything you do online is for sale.

Displaying content on your television isn't something you do online. It's something you're doing at home. Samsung is spying and putting it online.

You don't own your Samsung TV. You lease it. It's therefore Samsung's screenshots, not your private ones.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

#170

Few reasons why I prefer dumb TVs, just a flat LED panel: 1. You have control over bullshit like this 2. You can make them smart by attaching the external box 3. You don't have to throw the TV because your Software is now old, just change the box. 4. There's new format which requires hardware support (av1 is coming), change the box. 5. Want to add new hardware? Upgrade the box.

I might be in the market for a large screen soon. Any recommendations for good dumb panels? I assumed they'd be difficult to find.

I like this initiative anyways:

https://ironcast.tv/

I’m not affiliated in any way, I just like what they’re doing.

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