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Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by Aaron_Putnam »

cmer wrote: post #2

I've been using the 2S for a while and just bought the MX 3 because I needed an extra mouse. They managed to improve an already near-perfect mouse. I just love the 3. Probably not worth ditching your 2S for, but nonetheless, a superb upgrade. I always felt the thumb buttons were awkward on the 2S and that has been rectified. The magnetic wheel is also really nice to use.

The problem I have with the 2S is that the button clicks are really noisy - I had to swap out to another mouse in my office, since the noise was just too great.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by mng2 »

lmilcin wrote: post #99

I no longer care about Logitech mouses after I had THREE premium mouses, in succession, to die to the same problem for me personally and additionally one mouse for a person that I recommended it to. All had exactly the same problem -- double clicks registered when clicking left mouse button. For a premium brand I find it completely unacceptable. Even though it is possible to fix the problem ( https://www.instructable…

I had to replace the switches in my G100s after a few years, first the scroll wheel button and then the left click. Definitely an unacceptable level of longevity.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

VectorLock wrote: post #137
deanclatworthy wrote: post #7

For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/

Wake me up when they resurrect their most famous trackball: The Trackman Marble FX.

Check out Elecom trackballs.

https://www.amazon.com.au/ELECOM-M-DT2URBK-Trackball-Finger-...

Wireless, uses AA batteries. Not as expensive as the latest Logitech trackball.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by StavrosK »

jml7c5 wrote: post #135
StavrosK wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the same problem! What the hell is that? I've been mystified at that noise for ages.

Looks like a number of Logitech mice suffer from whine, though whether it's the same whine as parent is describing I do not know. Apparently caused by a poor choice of capacitor: https://jdc.koitsu.org/logitech/ (you'll have to scroll down a bit).

Oh huh, so it is the mouse... Thanks for the info!

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by friendlybus »

huangc10 wrote: post #50
uwuhn wrote: post #44

My mouse progression since 2005 has been MX518 - G400S - G903. I used the G502 for a few days when it first came out, and couldn't stand it because it just felt...weird with my grip. It also made my hand hurt. I'm completely locked into Logitech since I just can't function without a free-scrolling scroll wheel, and they apparently have it patented. I tried some of their other newer mice without free-scrolling, and no…

I 100% agree with you. Since using the MX Revolution in the late 2000s, I couldn't go back to anything. For me, MX Revolution - G500 - G500 (literally 2 for almost 8 years) - and just this year, the MX Master 2S. Long live the free scroll.

I love the MX Master 2S except for the input lag. I don't know why there is no way to disable that.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by Krasnol »

urxvtcd wrote: post #157
sunstone wrote: post #154

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The Logitech MX Ergo might be worth a look. Definitely works for me. Probably not great for gaming though.

Yeah, I can recommend it too. I experienced wrist numbness and pain, and they went away completely after I started using it. Originally I just wanted a vertical mouse, but MX Ergo is both vertical and a trackball. Go with MX Ergo Plus if you can, it has an additional wedge increasing the angle even more.

The only thing I have a problem with on this is the rubber coating on the metal plate. It's not sticking any more to the one I have at home. It seems like it's not a problem with the Plus but since I didn't know it even existed before your comment and I bought 2 of the normal ones (in case they go out of production...I have large hands and there are not many good products out there), it's not a solution for me.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by mclightning »

I see that Logitech ramped up their advertising investment again. I looked up the mouse and it shows up on all popular youtube channels with crazy titles.

I remember same thing from the original Performance MX. Everybody said it was a great mouse. I got it, it was terrible. It didn't work on most surfaces. It didn't hold battery long.

Long story short, I will hold off until it stands the test of time for a bit.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by yCloser »

have the mx3, so far all good. but.

I use linux... yes it works as a standard 5 mouse buttons, but there is no software for gestures or thumb scroll. Windows has those. Linux will probably never have anything like that

(thumb gesture-button seems to trigger KeyPress Meta+TAB, binding it seems not-so-easy)

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by chupasaurus »

MattRix wrote: post #130
fivesixzero wrote: post #14

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I still have a pair of G5 mice that I use at home and work. It’s good to see Logitech bringing back that design! Other than the MX Master 2S I carry around for mobile use, I’ve never had a mouse fit my grubby paws do perfectly. Other than a cable replacement and a switch cleaning, both of those original G5’s are still perfectly operational after over a decade of regular use.

Worth noting that even though the Logitech G502 looks very gamer-y, when you actually hold it, it feels like a G502/MX518.

Quite similar, but not exactly the same. The reissue of MX518 has a noticeable difference, too (using one right now, had 10 years of fun with the original one).

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by robotmay »

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #68
hughes wrote: post #42

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What BT issues have you had?

It’s slower, much more prone to noise, a lot of disconnects, etc. the dongle just works. There are other software bugs on macOS, such as smooth scrolling and inverted scroll not working sometimes on Bluetooth.

Interestingly the Logitech WiFi receiver for these mice can cause audio issues on some wireless headphones. I briefly had a pair of Sennheisser headphones and it picked up an interesting tick every few seconds. Though, to be honest, I think that's more likely poor design from headphone makers.
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