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Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Post by SkyPuncher »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #55

Ok.. i want to serve tiles... ok, I go here: https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/ First option (Build a tile server using packages) ... i click on it.. ubuntu packages... i don't have ubuntu here, let's go back. Second option (Build a tile server from source), takes me here: https://switch2osm.org/?page_id=76 ... where is the documentation? How do i build it from source? Ok fsck it, let's try the "all in one solutio…

I had this same thought.

We were building a HIPAA compliant app a few years ago. OSM looked like a good option and fit a lot of our requirements. Then I looked into actually using it and ran.

To me, it seems like there's a huge opportunity for OSM or a third party to run a managed OSM instance.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Post by sp8962 »

ocodia wrote: post #102

I wish you could just download a big bunch of pre-rendered tiles for each country.

a) there are more than enough companies that would be willing to provide that as a service. Any larger country will simply be very big depending on the maximum zoom level (there is a reason why most tile service providers don't pre-render high zoom levels),

b) the more sensible approach would be to use pre-generated vector tiles, for example from https://openmaptiles.org/

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Post by jokoon »

The OSM initiative is fantastic, but only the data is good. The software around it is low-quality, and the documentation is not good enough.

I once managed to import data exports I found on geofabrik and load it into a spatialite database. It was not very complicated but it was difficult to find help to understand what I was doing. But doing it felt pretty good. I still have to test if what I loaded actually works though.

Other experience I had, trying to load vector tiles from mapbox, with the PBF (google protocol buffers) format, in C++. I swiftly gave up. The C++ header generated was gigantic, apparently those .mbtiles were zipped PBF in a sqlite or something like that. It was horrendous. Mapbox seems like good software (and we need alternative to google maps) but I don't think they help OSM at all, at least not with the OSM model.

So in short, OSM needs some skilled engineers to work on the formats they can encourage. GIS is not a simple subject, and I wish there was more good FOSS for it.

Cheers to the OSMand team who can let me browse my region on my 70 euros android without a data plan, for free! That's a lot of money saved.

No doubt I will use OSM data to generate a 3D view of the world, so I can make a game with it. Outerra did it (they also made incredible city renders I think), but they are not planning to release a game, what a shame!

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

#164

Post by emj »

oehpr wrote: post #147
pastage wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good feedback, but FWIW I do believe that a docker container with Ubuntu is a no brainer. Sure policies might forbid it.

Hey I remember explicitly trying this option and the osm2pg instance died consistently after running for 4 hours. I could never figure out why. I worked on it for 4 days with no success. I have no earthly idea how to get this to work.

You might want to try with a small extract first, see how that goes.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

#165

Post by nathancahill »

stereo wrote: post #152
nathancahill wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a meeting with them tomorrow to ask them, but I'm not hopeful. The current setup is fairly low-tech on their end.

Good luck for your meeting! They might have at least georeferenced source files, no? You might have an easier time convincing them to work with you if you point out that this is the best and easiest way of getting the location of the mine fields into many people's phones and pockets.

Thanks. Georeferenced files, raw data, and using OSM directly are the 3 asks.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Post by andrewshadura »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #161
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #55

Ok.. i want to serve tiles... ok, I go here: https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/ First option (Build a tile server using packages) ... i click on it.. ubuntu packages... i don't have ubuntu here, let's go back. Second option (Build a tile server from source), takes me here: https://switch2osm.org/?page_id=76 ... where is the documentation? How do i build it from source? Ok fsck it, let's try the "all in one solutio…

I had this same thought. We were building a HIPAA compliant app a few years ago. OSM looked like a good option and fit a lot of our requirements. Then I looked into actually using it and ran. To me, it seems like there's a huge opportunity for OSM or a third party to run a managed OSM instance.

There are quite plenty of them.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

#167

Post by davidmurdoch »

asdf21 wrote: post #149
davidmurdoch wrote: post #92

I evaluated OSM for an AR real-world strategy game (like pokemon go) I was building years ago (terramango.com), as implementing it would have saved hundreds of thousands of dollars. Problem with it in the US is that so many places don't have parcel boundaries, and if they do, they are often pretty far off from reality. We ended up using Google Maps (cost wasn't an issue yet because we were only in a private beta stag…

OSM should be big enough to scrape their own parcels / subscribe to someone who does at this point. I wonder if this is still an issue... AR RTS is my use case as well, and the mapping is obviously a huge component. I think Pokemon Go switched to OSM a couple years ago, didn't they?

Pokemon Go doesn't need individual parcel data the way we did. They only needed a few points of interest (lat, lng), whereas we needed geometry data for every parcel with a building on it.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Post by toomuchtodo »

nathancahill wrote: post #165
stereo wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck for your meeting! They might have at least georeferenced source files, no? You might have an easier time convincing them to work with you if you point out that this is the best and easiest way of getting the location of the mine fields into many people's phones and pockets.

Thanks. Georeferenced files, raw data, and using OSM directly are the 3 asks.

Let us know if there's anything we can do to help.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

#169

Post by app4soft »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #55

Ok.. i want to serve tiles... ok, I go here: https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/ First option (Build a tile server using packages) ... i click on it.. ubuntu packages... i don't have ubuntu here, let's go back. Second option (Build a tile server from source), takes me here: https://switch2osm.org/?page_id=76 ... where is the documentation? How do i build it from source? Ok fsck it, let's try the "all in one solutio…

> Ok.. i want to serve tiles

The easiest way is to use Maperitive — freeware OSM render app (for live rendering or for generating tiles on own PC).[0]

[0] http://maperitive.net

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Post by [deleted] »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #55

Ok.. i want to serve tiles... ok, I go here: https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/ First option (Build a tile server using packages) ... i click on it.. ubuntu packages... i don't have ubuntu here, let's go back. Second option (Build a tile server from source), takes me here: https://switch2osm.org/?page_id=76 ... where is the documentation? How do i build it from source? Ok fsck it, let's try the "all in one solutio…

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