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Interesting! Now I have to try this.
Be warned that my patent for dried coffee licking powder is now in the works! Prior art be damned. ;-)
Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)
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Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)
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You raise some good points, for which I don't have the answer. However: > Walking upright really seems like something you don't need "much of a brain" for. You don't even need to teach a monkey to do it. You do need much of a brain for it -- not intelligence, but brain; Gould argued that "intelligence" and higher brain functions arose as a side-effect. Keep in mind that AI researchers found out "the easy things are h…
I was just trying to make the point that as stated I wouldn't buy it. I'm sure who you paraphrased gave it some more in-depth thought though. For instance if you were to tell me that walking upright opened up possibilities, such as creating and using advanced tools, which required larger brains, then I'd definitely be on board with that possibility. I just choose to interpret that sentence literally and narrowly to m…
I can't quote him exactly because I don't have the book nearby, but Gould argued that higher brain functions (intelligence) were a byproduct of the brain development required for walking upright, no tools or opened possibilities. It's not that walking upright enabled the development of tools and this in turn helped develop intelligence; it's that the brain structure necessary for bipedal walking had the potential to be used for other things, they had "emergent properties". I think he argued the same about the body shape itself, the shape of hips, legs and arms all "enabled" the emergence of human-like intelligence.
Stephen Jay Gould was a pretty well-known scientist (who sadly passed away in 2002) and, regardless of what you think of my possibly misleading summary, I urge to read his books if you have any interest at all in evolutionary science and biology.
Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)
#163Fun fact: the sodium lauryl sulfate in toothpaste dulls the sweetness receptors on your tongue. The taste of orange juice after brushing your teeth is what it would ALWAYS taste like to cats.
I've always been suspicious of that. Why is it specifically OJ that tastes awful, and not other juices, or chocolate, or bread?
Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)
#164> "This may be why cats are getting diabetes," Brand offers. "Cat food today has around 20 percent carbohydrates. The cats are not used to that, they can't handle it." It's worse than that, usually 35-50% carbohydrates. The good (expensive) dry stuff is usually 10-20%. Wet food is often lower, depending on the type, as low as 7% as-fed with pates. The weight-control labelled food is terrible both for weight and diabe…
Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)
#165> "This may be why cats are getting diabetes," Brand offers. "Cat food today has around 20 percent carbohydrates. The cats are not used to that, they can't handle it." It's worse than that, usually 35-50% carbohydrates. The good (expensive) dry stuff is usually 10-20%. Wet food is often lower, depending on the type, as low as 7% as-fed with pates. The weight-control labelled food is terrible both for weight and diabe…
Our vet did point out that cats eat carbohydrates; they tend to love the innards of their prey, and those often contain the undigested things mice etc eat. No idea what percentage of their diet that makes up though. (It wasn't a conversation about carb percentages in cat food)
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Our vet did point out that cats eat carbohydrates; they tend to love the innards of their prey, and those often contain the undigested things mice etc eat. No idea what percentage of their diet that makes up though. (It wasn't a conversation about carb percentages in cat food)
That’s also an interesting point. People have an aversion to those innards, or “by-products,” being included in food, but our disgust isn’t rational, and cats don’t share it. Just because a cat food includes meat by-products doesn’t make it any worse than just muscle meat, and it can be cheaper because of that. Cats like the flavor and it’s good for them.
the tasty innards you're talking about and the “by-products” that are in the industrial cat food are 2 very different things. The “by-products” is hide, horns, hooves, etc. with very heavy dose of strong preservatives, desinfectants and other chemicals.
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This is interesting. I've never experienced the absolute aversion that other people seem to have to drinking when Orange Juice after brushing my teeth (though I'll admit that I won't willingly combine mint and citrus.) But I also specifically use toothpaste that doesn't has sodium lauryl sulfate because it aggravates canker sores in my mouth. I wonder if this is why.
You might have a sulfite allergy that’s triggering an immune response. Do you have any other skin conditions triggered by consuming food or drink preserved with sulphites or sulfides, e.g. red wine, dried fruits?
That being said, you still might be right, since the science behind canker sores is a crapshoot to begin with, as I've learned
Personally, what works for me is: If I bite my lip, or feel a sore coming on in general, I immediately have to wash it out. After that, the only way to prevent a full week+ long sore is to put alum (pickling spice) on it for 90 seconds or so, once or twice a day. And of course, I need to make sure I meticulously brush and floss after every meal (of course with toothpaste without laurel sodium sulfate) Usually I can suffice for the normal once or twice a day
And that being said, this isn't exactly scientific. This is 100% just correlation and gathering personal anecdotal data. If I happen to stumble across something better, I'll take it. But all things considered, it's not a particularly bad thing to suddenly feel the need to take extra care of my mouth once a month or so