"I'm so glad this model has a touchbar" "I would buy a dell xps but only if it had a touchbar" things no one ever said.
Agreed. They look/feel so gimmicky IMO.
16-inch MacBook Pro
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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#162With the 15" MBP being EOLed into a 16", it's hard not to wonder if the 13.3" displays might become 14". Makes a big difference at the size, as the X1 Carbon is able to prove.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#163OMG, I'm very depressed as a user who loves the butterfly mechanism. I hate the wobbly feeling that the scissor mechanism produces. Apple didn't need to return to the scissor mechanism, it should have reiterated the design. I'm very disappointed that Apple just gave up & used the safe way of regressing back. It feels like Apple is losing the spirit of doing things itself, whether other people dislikes it. Apple is mo…
“And they didn’t throw away the good parts of the butterfly keyboard — including excellent backlighting and especially the increased stability, where keys go down flat even when pressed off-center. The keys on this keyboard don’t wobble like the keys on pre-2016 MacBook Pro keyboards do.” — https://daringfireball.net/2019/11/16-inch_macbook_pro_first...
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
The escape key will be especially welcome by me, as I found the touchbar exceptionally hard to deal with, and I would often have to hit it three or four times to get vim to exit insert mode. I actually didn't have much trouble with the arrow keys, despite all the negative feedback I saw for them online. Hopefully this trend continues and they can iterate on this model even further.
I remapped caps lock to escape and it's been wonderful. The oversized caps lock key on keyboards is an inexplicably bad UI choice anyway.
Personally I find a classic Unix layout to work best for me. I’ve mapped the caps lock key to CTRL. I use that far more than I ever use caps, it feels quite natural to me after about a week or two of adjustment.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#165Do advertising exaggerations belong in a post title?
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#166It feels as though Apple looked at the two biggest complaints, and gave the smallest concessions they possibly could.
• The keyboard uses scissor switches (and thus hopefully won't completely die), but still only has 1mm of key travel.
• They added back an escape key to the top row, but the touch bar is still there—and there's still no function keys as a result.
The keyboard, okay, maybe Apple really needs those thinness metrics for marketing purposes—but would it really have killed them to up the travel to 2mm? And, why the heck are they so dug in on the touchbar? While I admittedly only have anecdotal evidence, I think it's relatively clear at this point that neither users nor developers have taken to it in any significant way. Just kill it already. It's been three years—if people haven't discovered how amazing it is by now, they aren't going to have a sudden awakening.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#167I was so hoping for a constant bezel width. Unfortunately the top bezel is still a lot larger than the side ones. I know it's because of the camera, but that makes for an awkward looking device…
Can you elaborate on why constant bezel width is so important? Most devices (phones, tablets, TVs, laptops) don't have constant bezel width.
Most devices look terrible as a result.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#168I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…
I like the Touch Bar a lot. Not having esc was the only gripe I had with it but I personally much prefer the multifunctional bar over some static f keys
I'm curious, do you usually blind type? If so, what advantage does it bring to you to look down on your keys? Also, in an optimal seating position (elbows at 90 degrees), do your fingers obscure the visibility of the touch bar?
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#169> Featuring a new Magic Keyboard with a redesigned scissor mechanism and 1mm travel for a more satisfying key feel, the 16-inch MacBook Pro delivers the best typing experience ever in a Mac notebook. Feels like they claim "best typing experience" every time they release a new laptop.
Don't the claim the best everything everytime they release a new anything?
Yes.
Because logically you improve everytime, primarily why Cook comes onto stage every year saying:
"This is our best iPhone yet"
or insert whatever apple product you want.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#170So the top of the line specs get you: * 2.4GHz 8‑core 9th‑generation Intel Core i9 processor, Turbo Boost up to 5.0GHz * 64GB 2666MHz DDR4 memory * AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 memory * 8TB SSD storage for $6099USD. I wonder how it will handle the thermals.
I have a similarly-spec'd System76 Oryx Pro that cost less than half. No soldered DIMM's either :)
According to the System76 site, they charge $1798 just for the SSD.