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Re: Broken

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:16 PM UTC

dreamling wrote: post #56

Have you found the solution to keep things from asking for permission on things? I haven't upgraded yet, but experience this for a good 20+ items on reboot, and I haven't been able to find a solution to stop it. (including going into my keychain and trying to allow more permission to some items) Sometimes this mean 5-10min of allowing things access and typing my password over and over for each prompt. Things usually…

> including going into my keychain and trying to allow more permission to some items

This almost certainly is not going to help, because it’s granting access to other things.

> Sometimes this mean 5-10min of allowing things access and typing my password over and over for each prompt. Things usually work after that, but I don't even have a clue, often times different apps seem to be asking if they can access system programs.

It’s interesting to see how we’ve already degrade to the Windows Vista-esque experience when you just approve everything. None of the security benefits, all of the usability downsides…

Re: Broken

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Post by toyg » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:16 PM UTC

dangus wrote: post #99

All the nightmares are nightmares until they're not nightmares. Weird launch day bugs like the I bug on iOS 11 are distant memories. Yeah, these bugs are bad, but to me articles like this really feel a lot like a broken record. Every September and October, when the major releases come out, there are bugs. And then by the time you're on 10.xx.2 or iOS xx.1.3 a month later they're just a bad memory. If you don't want b…

Except the rest of the ecosystem is constantly egging you to get on with it. I upgraded my phone to iOS 13 and right away it wanted to update the format of my Reminders, which would require I also update my mac.

I will “resist” Catalina as long as I can, for the simple reason that it will kill tons of much-loved software (from major games like xcom to small little opensource apps that may or may not ever get an update). But I already know at some point Apple will tell me that I have to move on just to keep some stuff working as before.

Re: Broken

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Post by kaens » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:17 PM UTC

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #47

> The final (well, first) Catalina release along with the outright awful public beta makes me think one thing. And that is Apple’s insistence on their annual, big-splash release cycle is fundamentally breaking engineering. I know I’m not privy to their internal decision making and that software features that depend on hardware releases and vice-versa are planned and timed years (if not half-decades) in advance, but I…

> I'm beginning to think the average employee or middle manager has even more perverse incentives to make poor short-term decisions.

Quite a lot of that, in my experience, is driven by fear of losing their job in an at-will employment environment.

Re: Broken

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Post by m463 » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:17 PM UTC

snapples wrote: post #131

Things are so broken here at Apple. I joined about 4 years ago. I am awed by the fact that we manage to release any software at all, let alone functional software. The biggest problem is communication. No one fucking communicates. - No communication between orgs. Tons of bureaucratic tape to cut through just to get a hand on someone working on a different product - Barely any communication between teams. Literally ev…

From what I understand about Steve Jobs - he the great integrator. He got lots of disparate folks to work together.

I mean, he got music folks talking to computer folks.

But I think he did this on a smaller scale every day and that might have been his secret sauce for apple.

Re: Broken

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:17 PM UTC

commandlinefan wrote: post #38

Looks like the page itself is broken, too... from the comments I presume that there's something wrong with the latest version of OS/X?

It’s an article talking about bugs in the OS and the new privacy features being too onerous.

Re: Broken

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Post by zanny » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:17 PM UTC

irq wrote: post #37

arboghast wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So was I until I switch to a 4k monitor and realize that there's no real, stable, functional fractional scaling on Linux, even less so on XFCE, unfortunately.

This is the biggest thing keeping me from leaving the Mac for Linux, and it hasn’t really improved much in the last 4 years. I don’t think most people care about HighDPI (or whatever you want to call it), particularly Linux devs. But I can’t go back to lower DPI screens.

Qt 5.14 is now in beta and has a toggle switch to do per-display scaling based off DPI on all platforms.

I've had a 4k 27" monitor mixed with 1080p and 1440p monitors of varying sizes for years and have managed to get 90% of software working great, and whenever I dip into Wayland get to use the fractional scaling there it goes up to 99% of software.

Re: Broken

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Post by 13rac1 » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:18 PM UTC

als0 wrote: post #120

tedunangst wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

X locking is notoriously difficult.

I'm interested to understand why. Is it because of the design of Xorg?

Yes, it's one of the reasons Wayland was created. Screensavers didn't exist when X was designed. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTI5MQ

> Right now with screensavers under X it's basically capturing the input and continually redrawing over the display. > With Wayland, Kristian plans for the lock-screen to be part of the Wayland compositor. In having the compositor handle the screensaver role, it can ensure that no window can appear atop the screensaver surface, it can properly detect idling and grabs already, and has complete control over the screen. Unlike the X design, there wouldn't even need to be a screensaver "window" that's on top but the compositor could just keep painting a black screen. For those interested in a "fancy screensaver", a plug-in could be used or an out-of-process Wayland client for drawing whatever you desire.

Re: Broken

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Post by sehugg » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:18 PM UTC

I just restored from Time Machine after getting stuck on the “Estimating time remaining...” screen and then googling some other peoples' experiences. Three hours spent restoring from backup seemed like a better option.

Re: Broken

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:18 PM UTC

snapples wrote: post #131

Things are so broken here at Apple. I joined about 4 years ago. I am awed by the fact that we manage to release any software at all, let alone functional software. The biggest problem is communication. No one fucking communicates. - No communication between orgs. Tons of bureaucratic tape to cut through just to get a hand on someone working on a different product - Barely any communication between teams. Literally ev…

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Re: Broken

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Post by saagarjha » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:19 PM UTC

Gorbzel wrote: post #139

Why does what seems likes every commenter / blogger on this site feel the need to write a think piece about how they no longer trust Apple and all those other times they weren't the one complaining? (Hint: they were.) It's always the same – this time out: • Guy installed beta software and it was buggy. STOP THE PRESSES!!!! • "I'm a pro user, I've functionally given escalated privs to apps that steal my data, every El…

I’ve been using a Mac for years and I agree with most of the points in the article. (I’m still using Catalina, FWIW; I have a high tolerance for bugs and annoyances.)