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After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

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Post by SirensOfTitan »

AtomicOrbital wrote: post #160
SirensOfTitan wrote: post #104

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"It seems to be a hangover of the Medieval Catholic era that causes most people, even the educated, to think that everybody must "believe" something or other, that if one is not a theist one must be a dogmatic atheist, and if one does not think capitalism is perfect, one must believe fervently in socialism, and if one does not have blind faith in "X", one must alternatively have blind faith in not X or reverse of X.…

yes however it goes without saying taking a stand to not believe is also a belief position

The stand as outlined above is the middle way: I.e. neither belief nor non-belief. Beliefs are useful models but are only models after all.

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

swebs wrote: post #150
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #130

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China does not pollute more per capita. US has a commanding lead there.

But they produce twice the total emissions which is what affects the climate. And it seems to be growing at an alarming rate, while US emissions seem to be level or shrinking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

But the point is each person in China produces far less than each person in the US. They just have a lot more people. This is made even worse when you consider that much of what Americans use was manufactured there.

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Post by ForceOfPhil »

AtomicOrbital wrote: post #160
SirensOfTitan wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It seems to be a hangover of the Medieval Catholic era that causes most people, even the educated, to think that everybody must "believe" something or other, that if one is not a theist one must be a dogmatic atheist, and if one does not think capitalism is perfect, one must believe fervently in socialism, and if one does not have blind faith in "X", one must alternatively have blind faith in not X or reverse of X.…

yes however it goes without saying taking a stand to not believe is also a belief position

I like rush

"if you decide not to choose you still have made a choice"

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Post by undersuit »

darawk wrote: post #151
undersuit wrote: post #119

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Hitler implemented "National Socialism." Hitler may try to argue that it is 'national socialism', but all fascists will lie to your face if it can empower them. >The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism" The Nazis got to define National Socialism as they liked, even if the meaning drifted slightly from what you could consider a national socialist ideology.…

Is 'national socialism' a thing outside of Nazi Germany? I thought the term was basically invented by the nazis.

Forget the whole genocide against the Jews(and other groups) and a lot of the fascism and I would say yes. Heck, I'd classify a lot of the US's current rhetoric about access to social services(or even the protections of the Constitution) being only available to citizens as national socialism.

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Post by davvolun »

briandear wrote: post #88
davvolun wrote: post #71

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You had me until "cancel culture" Exactly how many irreverent comedians who achieved significant success and are not really accountable to anyone, telling it like it is, have been cancelled by the cancel culture? Cosby, TJ Miller, Louis CK, Jeffrey Tambor, James Franco, ...? A good list of people who did morally reprehensible things of varying degrees, from illegal to merely opening their employers to civil liability…

Roseanne Barr. Had her ABC show cancelled over a tweet, yet ABC-owned ESPN hired Keith Olbermann. Multiple examples of someone posting vile stuff on a blog or twitter and being unscathed (Joy Reid is one quick example,) but Roseanne gets canceled because she happens to support Trump . Another example is Shane Gillis — cancelled because of something he said, not any specific action. Getting cancelled for sexually abus…

Words vs action have nothing to do with what I was saying, and I don't see where you've made a convincing case that they should be separated.

As for Barr and Gillis, both ABC and NBC acted immediately to get rid of them when it looked like they would hurt their bottom line. Is that "cancel culture" to you?

> If I made vile jokes about Trump and his kids, I’d get a Netflix special.

Which kids? Who is out there making fun of Bannon, or are you saying Eric/Don Jr/Ivanka/[that other one] are off limits?

I'm not aware of anyone targeting any under age Presidential children..........

Oh except when Malia was being called out for drinking under age, I guess. Or, here's former Presidential candidate John McCain making a joke about Chelsea Clinton (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/sep/02/women.j...). So I guess if you make a joke about Trump's kids, you get a Netflix special; make a joke about a Democrat President's kid, run for President?

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