Earlier quoted context omitted.
>This one gets a bug tracker entry. For now. A comment from the reporter on the bug tracker entry: >A more detailed explanation of this bug and the methodology to identify it will be written up in a forthcoming blog post when I find the time.
The iOS “deep dive” was a timed media push of a months-old problem right before a major Android release. They didn’t even try to obfuscate the timing or narrative. Blog post or not it’s pretty hard to top that.
Google, Xiaomi, and Huawei affected by zero-day flaw that unlocks root access
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Re: Google, Xiaomi, and Huawei affected by zero-day flaw that unlocks root access
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Android land you can buy a phone where the bootloader can be unlocked and directly flash a pre-rooted ROM rather than relying on people exploiting security vulnerabilities like this.
But will it have Google play services? (and pass safety-net checks)
Re: Google, Xiaomi, and Huawei affected by zero-day flaw that unlocks root access
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Android land you can buy a phone where the bootloader can be unlocked and directly flash a pre-rooted ROM rather than relying on people exploiting security vulnerabilities like this.
But will it have Google play services? (and pass safety-net checks)
Re: Google, Xiaomi, and Huawei affected by zero-day flaw that unlocks root access
#164“It’s advisable that you don’t install apps from non-trustworthy sources, ” Unpopular opinion but this is why I prefer walled garden apple for my family then alternative.
You can install family link, which blocks that option. It's a good option for parents to keep tabs on their kids - it shows you location, and which apps are installed.
Re: Google, Xiaomi, and Huawei affected by zero-day flaw that unlocks root access
#165Re: Google, Xiaomi, and Huawei affected by zero-day flaw that unlocks root access
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kudos to Epic for using their power to attempt to break Google's Play Store hegemony, facepalms for unfortunately proving one of Google's (both legit and pretended) concerns on safety and security regarding acquiring apps from outside of the Play Store.
Hasn’t the entire argument been that Android’s permission system would have prevented this even if the app was installed outside of the store?
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SHOULD desktop apps be like this? :D
For most people yes. For programmers and experts no. But if it was toggle-able, I would toggle "sandbox everything, don't let anything not secure run, only allow trusted apps" in a heartbeat for work machines, my parents, and so on...
Re: Google, Xiaomi, and Huawei affected by zero-day flaw that unlocks root access
#168The bug is scaringly easy to trigger. It just takes four system calls, none of which are niche or take unusual arguments. int fd, epfd; struct epoll_event event = { .events = EPOLLIN }; fd = open("/dev/binder0", O_RDONLY); epfd = epoll_create(1000); epoll_ctl(epfd, EPOLL_CTL_ADD, fd, &event); ioctl(fd, BINDER_THREAD_EXIT, NULL);
It's interesting that even such basic usage of binder is buggy. It's long been known that binder is horrible code, but I didn't know it was quite this bad. It's unfortunate that Google chose to use a custom IPC system, binder, for Android, instead of changing Android's design to better fit Linux. If binder was in use outside Android, I expect this bug would have been caught long ago and certainly would have been back…
I just had a look at binder.c and the ref counting and locking in general looks like a nightmare to maintain. This reminds me of how much I hate resource management in C.
Re: Google, Xiaomi, and Huawei affected by zero-day flaw that unlocks root access
#169To me, the biggest part of this story is: 1. Over two years ago, this was apparently detected automatically by the syzkaller kernel fuzzer, and automatically reported on its public mailing list. [1] 2. Over a year and a half ago, it was apparently fixed in the upstream kernel. [2] 3. It was apparently never merged back to various "stable" kernels, leading to the recent CVE. [3] So you might read that and think "Ok, p…
Re: Google, Xiaomi, and Huawei affected by zero-day flaw that unlocks root access
#170To me, the biggest part of this story is: 1. Over two years ago, this was apparently detected automatically by the syzkaller kernel fuzzer, and automatically reported on its public mailing list. [1] 2. Over a year and a half ago, it was apparently fixed in the upstream kernel. [2] 3. It was apparently never merged back to various "stable" kernels, leading to the recent CVE. [3] So you might read that and think "Ok, p…
The failures of the Linux core team to properly prioritize security is quite well known. A lot of people have poked the bear by trying to bring this up, also with specific real examples, and got a tongue lashing from the team and moved on to other things. I'm amazed the GRSecurity people have managed to do it for so long. Even if merging their stuff mainline legitimately wasn't practical, I've seen plenty of snark an…