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Re: iPadOS

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Post by tpetry »

saagarjha wrote: post #124
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #100

Track record for Apple when it comes to iOS/iPadOS updates has been impressive, but once they stop updating their device it becomes more vulnerable than their android counterpart for basic Internet browsing just because Apple doesn't update Safari via AppStore and doesn't allow any other browser engine . Case in point : Google Project Zero's latest iOS Exploit chains on webkit shows how easy it was(*is?) for an iOS u…

> In any case, I don't think there can be any opposing arguments on the side of security for Apple not updating Safari via AppStore or now allowing proper 3rd party browsers. Third party browsers entitled with dynamic codesigning poke a huge hole in Apple's security model for iOS devices.

They could limit this functionality to only their apps. No problem.

Re: iPadOS

#162

Post by jorenvo »

kodablah wrote: post #155

> QuickPath typing - Type by swiping from one letter to the next. Are there plans for this to be added for phone keyboards too? As one that appreciates it on Android, I imagine it'd be welcomed by many.

It's in iOS 13 which was released last week.

Re: iPadOS

#163

Post by layoutIfNeeded »

prashnts wrote: post #36
radnor wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't heard of any webcams that work in iOS via the CCK - sorry! I'm not too familiar with how it all works, but I imagine it has a lot to do with the individual apps that are running to be able to read/write to the USB port.

Seems like it, thanks anyway! Maybe now that there’s USBKit (although not sure if it’s MacOS only), one might be able to work out a camera driver implementation. Yay, weekend project!

USBDriverKit is macOS only.

Re: iPadOS

#164

Post by saagarjha »

tpetry wrote: post #161
saagarjha wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In any case, I don't think there can be any opposing arguments on the side of security for Apple not updating Safari via AppStore or now allowing proper 3rd party browsers. Third party browsers entitled with dynamic codesigning poke a huge hole in Apple's security model for iOS devices.

They could limit this functionality to only their apps. No problem.

That wouldn't work for third-party browsers.

Re: iPadOS

#165

Post by Abishek_Muthian »

saagarjha wrote: post #124
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #100

Track record for Apple when it comes to iOS/iPadOS updates has been impressive, but once they stop updating their device it becomes more vulnerable than their android counterpart for basic Internet browsing just because Apple doesn't update Safari via AppStore and doesn't allow any other browser engine . Case in point : Google Project Zero's latest iOS Exploit chains on webkit shows how easy it was(*is?) for an iOS u…

> In any case, I don't think there can be any opposing arguments on the side of security for Apple not updating Safari via AppStore or now allowing proper 3rd party browsers. Third party browsers entitled with dynamic codesigning poke a huge hole in Apple's security model for iOS devices.

That doesn't explain why it fails to update Safari via AppStore.

Also Apple has been allowing coding apps for years now which can download and run executable code, so it is hard to buy the argument.

Re: iPadOS

#166

Post by beat »

saagarjha wrote: post #98
bigdubs wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPad was never intended to be a desktop or laptop replacement; it was meant to invent a new niche for a computer with a "fileless" interface. Expecting it to replace your development machine is probably not realistic.

> The iPad was never intended to be a desktop or laptop replacement I think it was and has been for many people.

For non-developers, yeah. People whose work necessarily involves file management are hosed. But that's a small minority of what gets done on computers these days.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by rictic »

saagarjha wrote: post #124
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #100

Track record for Apple when it comes to iOS/iPadOS updates has been impressive, but once they stop updating their device it becomes more vulnerable than their android counterpart for basic Internet browsing just because Apple doesn't update Safari via AppStore and doesn't allow any other browser engine . Case in point : Google Project Zero's latest iOS Exploit chains on webkit shows how easy it was(*is?) for an iOS u…

> In any case, I don't think there can be any opposing arguments on the side of security for Apple not updating Safari via AppStore or now allowing proper 3rd party browsers. Third party browsers entitled with dynamic codesigning poke a huge hole in Apple's security model for iOS devices.

Do you mean the ability to dynamically allocate executable memory? That's not necessary for shipping a browser engine (though performance would suffer, as that's how all modern JS VMs work, via jitting JS to machine code).

Re: iPadOS

#168

Post by MuffinFlavored »

xienze wrote: post #157
ogre_codes wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's not very good mouse support. It's basically a simulated finger. If they started advertising this, people would rightly criticize it for being mediocre. For the moment anyhow, the iPad is a touch device with an optional virtual finger you can plug into it.

> Because it's not very good mouse support. It's basically a simulated finger. All I want for them to do is allow third party applications to support real mice in the way that you'd expect a real mouse to behave. The killer app would be remote desktop. I understand that there's literally one model of mouse that works with one specific remote desktop app, but I don't want that, I want to use my own mouse.

I've always thought the idea of programming on an iPad with a keyboard + mouse would be cool, but now it is very apparent that if that idea has any chance of working, it would pretty much be centered around using the iPad solely as a remote desktop tool.

I would also imagine the latency that comes with that would be annoying.

I wonder if Apple will ever do what Microsoft did with the surface and just put full blown Mac OS on it. I'm going to guess no due to this iPadOS with swipey gestures thing.

I'd buy it if they did... I think.

Re: iPadOS

#169

Post by Miraste »

savoytruffle wrote: post #28
dallen33 wrote: post #18

The list of supported devices is impressive. The iPad Air 2 came out in 2014. 12.9-inch iPad Pro 11-inch iPad Pro 10.5-inch iPad Pro 9.7-inch iPad Pro iPad (7th generation) iPad (6th generation) iPad (5th generation) iPad mini (5th generation) iPad mini 4 iPad Air (3rd generation) iPad Air 2

It supports iPads with an A8 series chip, while iOS 13 does not support such iPhones (which would be a 5S). It's presumably because the iPads of the same CPU generation usually have more RAM, more CPU cores, more GPU cores.

Those decisions are pretty arbitrary. Way back on iOS 5, the iPod Touch 4 got the update and the original iPad missed it, despite using the exact same processor and RAM.

Re: iPadOS

#170

Post by simias »

robohoe wrote: post #15
cfors wrote: post #10

Cool, but nothing about any focus on making the machine realistic for development. My current MacBook Pro is getting a little long in the tooth and after suffering through the 2016 and later versions at work, I will not be buying one of those until the keyboards are fixed. If iPadOS has first class terminal support I would consider making it my full time machine. Looks like the waiting game will continue.

Blink shell on the App Store is a fantastic terminal that works wonderfully on iOS/iPadOS. Highly recommend it even with its steep price of $20. It supports mosh out of the box and has ability to store/import private/public keys. Multiple terminals can be opened as well. It even has a limited native shell which you can use to SCP files from your iPad to servers.

I don't own an iPad so I'm not really the target audience but even after reading about the app I must say that I'm rather confused: it's called Blink shell but it's actually a terminal emulator at the core, right, not an actual shell in the technical sense?
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