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I'm guessing they are talking about this issue which has been open for a disturbingly long time: https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/955
It seems to be grinding through to a conclusion. Google analytics has already been removed (2018).
(I also have issues with how slow the ICO are at investigating, but that's a different story)
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You can have both notifications and a persistent history with the majority of IRC clients. Many public channels keep logs, even. If someone pings me (hilight), then I get an urgency hint. Most window managers handle urgency hints. I use openbox + xterm + irssi. I do get notified if someone pings me, and I can also add any arbitrary words for which I would get notified. With a small Perl script I could use notify-send…
Persistent history including things that happened when you weren't connected . Obviously logging is easy, this isn't about client logs. With phone notifications, you not only need to work for things that happened while not connected, it's bad form to require a permanent connection on android and you can't do it at all on an iphone.
I don't miss anything.
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No persistent presence, no true source-of-truth logging, bad authentiation - I mean, there's really nothing good about IRC unless you have a fetish for late '90s tech.
Everything you dislike about IRC is precisely what I like.
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I am hoping they go with Matrix, least then I will be able to have the choice of having a client appropriate to my needs. I do prefer my chat client to not be a part of my browser. That way I can close my browser, start my browser and chat client on login ie from i3/sway etc. A tab in a browser runs the risk of getting closed. I love using weechat (weechat.org) and have used it for decades. The Matrix plugin for Weec…
You really don't want Matrix. One year of Matrix to IRC bridge cost me about 30GB in Postgresql database to hold the state/logs of everything. It was less than 500MB of plaintext irssi logs.
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They can make it a reality by backing the Matrix.org protocol, or even Ruma, the Rust implementation.
Interesting. Any good resources on Matrix? How has adoption been going until now?
I've read somewhere that matrix server uses too much RAM due to bad design. Personally I'd prefer XMPP.
Really excited to see Discord rejected. Watching Discord take over open source and free culture communities has been disheartening to say the least.
There's a lot of alternatives, but until they provide a good user experience, I don't see a point in purposefully making peoples' lives suck.
I'm confident that alternative's to discord will get better with time, but they're really not there yet.
I'm sad to see Zulip excluded from the list. It solves the #1 issue with large group chats - proper threading. Nothing worse than waking up to a 1000 message backlog you have to sort through to filter out the information relevant to you. Except for Slack, all of their other choices have very poor threading. They said they had trouble to get it working behind IAM, but Zulip is just a Django application. Surely there's…
Unless I'm reading the pricing info[1] incorrectly, it seems like the free plan wouldn't be even close to being usable for a project of more than 2 people...
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Die? No, but it is slowly degrading. More and more the people in my old freenode chatrooms are idle or simply leaving. We've gotten so used to phone notifications and a persistent history, that IRC has fallen behind purely from a convenience factor. It's rock solid in what it does, I have zero doubt about that or your 15 year claim. But even if the protocol works, if the user base isn't being added to it will die eve…
> We've gotten so used to phone notifications and a persistent history, that IRC has fallen behind purely from a convenience factor. I have that with a bouncer (znc) and a plugin. I've not used it, but it is my understanding that IRCCloud does this too. Problem is that there aren't many easily usable options for this apart from IRCCloud and even IRCCloud itself isn't all that well marketed. Always seemed kind of weir…
I think it also dampens the same for traditional paid software in a lot of areas, incidentally.
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I've never heard of this but I'm not particularly in the field... Can you expand?
Rust is moving from irc to discord as a result of mozilla sunsetting their irc server. I know one datapoint is not a trend, but it's a high profile datapoint.