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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Removing the SE fragments the user base. I'll go to another hardware vendor to keep a hand-sized device.

Android has never had good support for small devices, so I don't think that's a huge risk.

The Android phones in 2013 were a pretty good size, small by today's standards.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Removing the SE fragments the user base. I'll go to another hardware vendor to keep a hand-sized device.

Android has never had good support for small devices, so I don't think that's a huge risk.

Android on the Jelly Pro was usable but recharging 2-3 times per day was not. Just a little bit bigger, please, to support a bigger battery and a slightly larger on-screen keyboard.

Re: Bring Back the SE

#163
I just retired my 5s and bought an SE for $100 from a 12 year old. It's even rose gold hah.

Only reason my 5s needed to go was because it doesn't support VoLTE, which the SE does, and is needed to get calls at my house.

As others have said, would totally spend $900 on a similar sized phone with upgraded internals. But, looks like I'll just hold onto this one for ever...

Re: Bring Back the SE

#164
I'm also still using an SE and I'm not sure what I will do if it breaks. I want Apple iOS, but I definitely want the size of SE and nothing bigger. And the 3.5 headphone jack. And the not-too-curved edge so that I can it can stay on it. I'd pay 500 for a newer model with a newer CPU.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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I've had the 8+ and now XS in my front left pocket just fine. Maybe buy some looser pants? =)

I can fit the larger phones (though still prefer the SE size), but my wife has demonstrated how even the SE is often spilling out of whatever pocket or other way-smaller device holding pocket is on her clothing items. Unless fashion trends change, or everyone who uses purses goes for some giant bag (and likes keeping their phones in a bag, not on their person), there is a large number of people who could use a smalle…

A good pocket in women's clothing is unicorn level fashion.

I however always have a bra strap. I end up storing my phone there most of the time.

Re: Bring Back the SE

#167
Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basically an admission of guilt—"Yeah, this phone is too big for your hands and goes completely against our brilliant ad campaign about the phone vs hand size, but Samsung made a big phone and people are buying it! We're scared they're taking our customers away so we're making big phones now. Here's a workaround."

Thanks, I hate it.

As someone holding on tightly to an out of date iPhone and a 2015 MacBook Pro (oh my god, the current laptop keyboard/trackpad/port situation is a whole 'nother even more intense rant), I think Apple has fucking lost it product-wise. I'm saying this as someone who has been on Apple products since 1987 and lived through the dark days of Apple in the 90s.

To me it's an example of what happens when you put a finance guy and not a product guy at the top of the totem pole. Instead of asking "is this product the best it could be?" the thought process seems to be "Will this product make money? How can it make MORE money?"

"Yeah, it doesn't sit on a table flat anymore, but it'll sell when we market it as 'THE SHINIEST IPHONE EVER'"

"It sure is awkward to use one handed, but it'll sell when we market it as 'THE NEWEST IPHONE WE'VE EVER MADE'"

Bigger and bigger iPhones with better and better cameras and more and more letters tacked on to the end will sell to a captive audience when Apple has the brand power they do. And that might seem good enough when all you're doing is comparing yourself to what the rest of the market is releasing, and when market success is beating last year's sales. But is that the Apple we want?

Nope.

I want my Apple back. The SE was the last phone form-factor that still had Steve Job's approval on it, and it sucks that it's so obvious.

Re: Bring Back the SE

#169
Here is my plan: Buy old broken iPhone SEs and go to Apple support to get a replacement for whatever their price is. I'll get one for replacing mine (battery issues) and one for myself in the future, in case they really stop manufacturing it. Shame on Apple.
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