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Firefox 69.0 Released

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Re: Firefox 69.0 Released

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Post by hota_mazi »

Aardwolf wrote: post #54

> The Block Autoplay feature is enhanced to give users the option to block any video that automatically starts playing, not just those that automatically play with sound. Good. I know a news website that was on purpose disabling sound on videos to prevent that. So not only does it autoplay, you need to click to unmute anyway to actually hear it! Why do news websites want to shove autoplaying videos on people's throat…

> Why do news websites want to shove autoplaying videos on people's throats so much, what's wrong with playing at any time when you want?

Probably so they can show advertisers that every month, they stream XXX terabytes of video, thereby getting these advertisers to pay them more money.

Not technically a lie as long as you don't pretend people are actually watching these videos.

Re: Firefox 69.0 Released

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

ticmasta wrote: post #140
Carpetsmoker wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 5KB news article On what site do you find "5KB news articles"? Pretty much all news sites that I know of load a gigantic amount of useless and obnoxious JavaScript, CSS, images, etc. with or without video.

HN comments? It's as much "news" as the vast majority of major sites...

comments are a poor replacement for journalism.

Re: Firefox 69.0 Released

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Post by acdha »

Aardwolf wrote: post #54

> The Block Autoplay feature is enhanced to give users the option to block any video that automatically starts playing, not just those that automatically play with sound. Good. I know a news website that was on purpose disabling sound on videos to prevent that. So not only does it autoplay, you need to click to unmute anyway to actually hear it! Why do news websites want to shove autoplaying videos on people's throat…

> Why do news websites want to shove autoplaying videos on people's throats so much, what's wrong with playing at any time when you want?

There was a bubble awhile back when advertisers were being told that video had better metrics, and all of the news sites jumped on higher-paying ads. That seems to have tapered off as advertisers noticed poor returns and learned that Facebook had been massively misrepresenting the metrics (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/advertisers-alle...) but it’ll take years to de-pivot everyone’s shiny new toys and the staffing invested in producing low information density content.

Re: Firefox 69.0 Released

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Post by pseudalopex »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #134
pseudalopex wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been 2 years. They have no specific plans to release the server code.[1] They won't say what's been done or has to be done. [1] https://github.com/Pocket/extension-save-to-pocket/issues/75

On a software product note, "Pocket", the client-side product that does local-only interest analysis so it can get a full list of interesting articles from the server, and then locally filter out all the stuff you probably don't care about, is not "the server application that accepts volutary user submission analysis to determine what goes on the API response list with which categories". No one ever talked about open…

The main function of Pocket is saving pages to read later. Did Pocket even have client side recommendations when Mozilla acquired it?

Mozilla's claimed principles include privacy, interoperability, and free and open source software.[1]

[1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

Re: Firefox 69.0 Released

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Post by tjoff »

hota_mazi wrote: post #161
Aardwolf wrote: post #54

> The Block Autoplay feature is enhanced to give users the option to block any video that automatically starts playing, not just those that automatically play with sound. Good. I know a news website that was on purpose disabling sound on videos to prevent that. So not only does it autoplay, you need to click to unmute anyway to actually hear it! Why do news websites want to shove autoplaying videos on people's throat…

> Why do news websites want to shove autoplaying videos on people's throats so much, what's wrong with playing at any time when you want? Probably so they can show advertisers that every month, they stream XXX terabytes of video, thereby getting these advertisers to pay them more money. Not technically a lie as long as you don't pretend people are actually watching these videos.

The fascinating part is how advertisers fall for that every time. How can this still be a problem?

Re: Firefox 69.0 Released

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Post by rosybox »

cptskippy wrote: post #83
Aardwolf wrote: post #82

> For our users in the US or using the en-US browser, we are shipping a new “New Tab” page experience that connects you to the best of Pocket’s content. With all due respect, if you have to call it an "experience" you know it's something nobody asked for :p

Looks like if you're disabled Pocket, that "experience" is disabled.

Yeah I don't see any pocket crap on the new tab page as I had pocket set to disabled.

Re: Firefox 69.0 Released

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Post by rosybox »

gnud wrote: post #51
kuu wrote: post #2

For our users in the US or using the en-US browser, we are shipping a new “New Tab” page experience that connects you to the best of Pocket’s content. Uhmmm...

It _really_ bugs me that pocket isn't packaged as a pre-installed extension, that you can uninstall normally.

I have pocket disabled and I don't see any pocket stuff in Firefox.

Re: Firefox 69.0 Released

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Post by marrone12 »

Aardwolf wrote: post #82

> For our users in the US or using the en-US browser, we are shipping a new “New Tab” page experience that connects you to the best of Pocket’s content. With all due respect, if you have to call it an "experience" you know it's something nobody asked for :p

I like the Pocket recommendations ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Firefox 69.0 Released

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Post by techntoke »

Still no mention of hardware-accelerated video on Linux. Can't consider Firefox until this is implemented, but it works on Chromium in multiple distros. Seems like Chromium folks are more apt to actually prioritize Linux over Mozilla.
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