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Tesla Enters “Whistleblower Hell”

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Re: Tesla Enters “Whistleblower Hell”

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> adversaries They are literally paying you , the Tesla long/holder, for the privilege of borrowing your shares or buying options that you are selling. If you own shares and believe in the company, you should be absolutely in love with short sellers because their activities net you money. Nothing a short seller can do will destroying a financially secure, sound company. Nothing . Meanwhile you get to collect interest…

>>Nothing a short seller can do will destroying a financially secure, sound company. Nothing. That is factually wrong. In today's news cycle, Cancel Culture, and panicky investors there are all kinds of ways a malicious actor can and do manipulate stock prices that have exactly ZERO to do with the companies finances To believe otherwise is utterly naive

The biggest determinant of a company's stock price is not the company. It's beta, interest rates, and a multitude of other factors. The idiosyncratic return and variance of most companies is quite small compared to the systematic return and variance described by other factors.

Re: Tesla Enters “Whistleblower Hell”

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I don't agree. I think you're making terrible excuses for bad behavior, that shouldn't be accepted under any circumstances. Ironically, you resort to personal attacks instead of making an argument based on merits. It's perfectly fair to point out that the "I'm not PC or tame" line is frequently used by people that are just jerks to justify jerk behavior. I don't think calling him a prick is unwarrented given the beha…

I think in your head you are arguing with somebody else. E.g what excuses have I made? I personally don't even know which parts of his behavior you are referring to. It's you here saying "jerk" and "prick" - behavior I think shouldn't be ignored. Although I don't have the full list of what Elon has done wrong then I'm pretty sure that there is plenty of way more ugly stuff going on which we don't even know about, but…

> I think in your head you are arguing with somebody else. E.g what excuses have I made?

> he has made a name in the general public and is not politically correct nor "tamed". Obviously he's going to get plenty of negative attention.

This is a classic excuse used by pricks/jerks. I don't have a full list either, but I've literally never called someone a pedo for criticizing me, I've never seen it happen. It's a jerk first; truly exceptional. "I'm not politically correct" is a classic, tired, and lame excuse.

WTF are you talking about people that don't bring value to the world? Everyone does, and I'm not impressed by Musk.

> And you are just randomly angry because the current guy at hand is public with his mistakes, you can see them, and then you go and argue about it on the internet.

I'm not angry, and this is an internet discussion board, so I don't know what your point is.

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