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Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by Spooky23 »

metildaa wrote: post #142
dangus wrote: post #100

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This is not 100% true, if you go to an existing business listing and scroll to the bottom there's a "report an issue" option. Apple has fixed my reported issues within a few days in the past. In another sense I'm not sure why it should matter to the end user how many interns Apple hires to do things behind the scenes. I'm imagining that Apple is well aware of these shortcomings. Not only that I wonder if operational…

These user reports take weeks to months to get triaged, making many rather useless.

They all have that problem.

My son's school is in a kafka-ish situation with Google where their listing is wrong and cannot be changed. People cannot write reviews, and data doesn't get updated.

98/100 times, updates to Apple or Google mapping products are done in hours or days. The 2/100, forget it.

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by svachalek »

sethhochberg wrote: post #129
dybber wrote: post #111

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Apple Maps doesn’t do bike routes which is reason enough not to use it. Google Maps does a very nice job for bikes. If I should wish something of Google Maps it would be “I bring my bike on the train” routes, which is a very common and nice way to get around here in Denmark at least.

I'm not aware of any major mapping platform which does multimodal journeys very well yet, whoever figures it out first will probably see me switch to their app immediately. Bonus points if they build in cost optimization, ie, "take the train 80% of the way there and then Uber for the last leg, optionally saving you 20 mins for an extra $8, or bring a bike to save 10 mins for no extra cost". I'm reading that Citymappe…

Yeah, I'd really like something that can solve for "I want to drive to a train station, take a train, and then whatever form of transit can take me the last mile". It's a not-uncommon case for me and it seems both Apple and Google could both basically solve it if only the UI had a way to ask.

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by zrobotics »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #130
ibrault wrote: post #78

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Also in SoCal and I've noticed Google Maps has really regressed, I've gotten a ton of "faster route available" prompts that lead to significantly slower routes when on the 405 and 10.

I was once stuck in a "Faster route available" infinite loop in GMaps near some small town outside of Houston. At an intersection, my original route was to continue straight, but the "faster route" prompt redirected me to turn right. After turning right, a "faster route" prompt redirected me to make a u-turn. After returning to the intersection, it again suggested the direction I had just come from.

On my last cross-country road trip (~1 month ago) Google maps would regularly suggest "faster routes" that were just "turn left off the state highway onto a gravel road, after 1 mile turn right onto a different gravel road, drive 3 miles parallel to the state highway and then turn right again to rejoin the highway". I was seeing these suggestions every ~20-30 miles. It was annoying enough to finally prompt me to fully adopt OSM.

Is anyone aware of a setting/workaround to use OSM in DDG instead of apple maps? I would rather provide my free labor to an open project, and I'm most likely to submit corrections when I notice them from a search.

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by ulfw »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #158
eridius wrote: post #151

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I still can't reproduce this. I just put the two following addresses into Notes: 23 California St, San Francisco, CA 23 California Ave, San Francisco, CA then tapped on both of them and Maps brought me to the correct spot each time.

eh https://share.icloud.com/photos/0UvrFm0fJbLxIGYPFqGr0ClLg

That is because 94130 is the ZIP code for Treasure Island. You've got the wrong address mate!

California St is at 94104

Please don't blame Apple Maps for user error

You're searching for "California St, San Francisco, CA 94130" and Apple seems to parse this from right to left. California Ave happens to be the closest match to "California St" in ZIP code 94130 and apparently is a stronger signal than "California St, San Francisco, CA !94130 but actually 94104"

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by radicaldreamer »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #158
eridius wrote: post #151

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I still can't reproduce this. I just put the two following addresses into Notes: 23 California St, San Francisco, CA 23 California Ave, San Francisco, CA then tapped on both of them and Maps brought me to the correct spot each time.

eh https://share.icloud.com/photos/0UvrFm0fJbLxIGYPFqGr0ClLg

Oops, good catch!

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by radicaldreamer »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #20
melling wrote: post #13

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Last weekend I used Apple Maps to navigate to a movie theater from within the Trailers app. Not sure which one got it wrong. We ended up in some neighborhood two miles from the theater. I knew once we pulled off the main road and into that neighborhood that we were screwed.

Apple Maps keeps confusing California St. and California Ave. in San Francisco. One is in downtown SF and the other is in Treasure Island, a part of the city surrounded on all sides by water only accessible via the Bay Bridge.

UPDATE: I think the problem was the address for an event had the wrong zip code! So, not really an Apple Maps issue! The problem is the user...

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by inferiorhuman »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #157
inferiorhuman wrote: post #51

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Apple Maps is pretty awful in the Bay Area. My favorite recently was it's insistence that I make a left turn off of Van Ness. Left turns have largely been banned from Van Ness starting with the huge construction project, but the left turn Apple Maps was also demanding was also across a double yellow line where a left turn would've been illegal regardless of construction. Yesterday I was trying to remember if this del…

What is "Grainger in Millbrae?" Do you mean Grainger Industrial Supply in Burlingame? Because if you do, that's why it can't find them in Millbrae. :) This is all anecdotal, which is kind of the issue, isn't it? I'm in the Bay Area, too, and I very rarely have any problems with Apple Maps. It isn't perfect, but it's absolutely not "pretty awful." I have no significant problems finding businesses with Apple Maps; I li…

Sorry, yes, Burlingame. All the teeny peninsula towns tend to blend together to me, and Grainger shuttered its SF outpost. Apple Maps happily took me to the street behind the store where there is/was no entrance.

Even when I know the name I often have problems finding something in Apple Maps. Up in Marin, searching for "Apple Store" pulled up listings for the Apple Stores in the East Bay (the one in Corte Madera was significantly lower).

Or, if I'm looking for the specific address for the junk yard... for a while it would sort the results in seemingly random order. Right now it seems to at least be sorting by distance, but I think it default to heavily weighting towards what you were last looking at, which almost makes sense (but this seems to persist even if you move someplace else lending an utterly unpredictable feel to the results). This wouldn't be a huge problem but the distance is only shown for the top two results, and the city name is often truncated so chains will often be hard to distinguish from one another. Even better if I scroll up too far it backs out of the search itself and clears the search bar.

Edit: Oh yeah, and the deli was actually called a market (but I had also searched for market and only gotten results for Market Street).

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by inferiorhuman »

barkerja wrote: post #139
inferiorhuman wrote: post #120

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I've reported dozens of POI and route problems. It couldn't be simpler. So what happens when it's clear the route is all wrong and you don't want to follow it to its completion? And, honestly, while I remember a report problems thing at the end of a route I don't remember seeing it recently.

There's an option to report previous navigations. It breaks the route down step-by-step and lets you correct and report each one. In addition to reporting wrong directions, you can also report the arrival entrance (ex: moving the pin into a parking lot vs. the entrance to the parking lot)

There's an option to report previous navigations. It breaks the route down step-by-step and lets you correct and report each one.

Where? If I go into the detailed list of directions nothing responds to taps and there's no "i" button, only a lonely "Done" button.

Re: DuckDuckGo Expands Use of Apple Maps

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Post by mda »

pwinnski wrote: post #147

I was a big defender of Apple Maps, largely because I almost never saw any problems with the data. Then I moved into an apartment complex in which Apple had the driveway in the wrong place. I've moved since, so I'll spell it out: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=5940+Arapaho+Rd%2C+75248&t=osx&ia=... Apple Maps believes that the driveways are to the south and east, but in fact the front driveway--the main entrance--is to the…

I don't think there is much difference regarding privacy between apple maps and Google maps. What exactly do you loathe?
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