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Marsh v. Alabama, 326 U.S. 501 (1946), was a case decided by the United States Supreme Court, in which it ruled that a state trespassing statute could not be used to prevent the distribution of religious materials on a town's sidewalk, even though the sidewalk was part of a privately owned company town. The Court based its ruling on the provisions of the First Amendment and Fourteenth Amendment. https://en.wikipedia.…

The correlation between the digital town square and the physical one is often cited but tenuous at best. Other video streaming sites exist. Moving to them is a click away - no need to pack up your family and put a deposit down.

The digital town square is where the people are at. Moving to other streaming sites is more like having your expression relegated to some dusty back road.

If YouTube wants to be editor over the content they host, then they ought to be subject to the same liabilities as a publisher. If they want to be considered a platform then should be forced to remain neutral. The conflation of these mutually exclusive roles serves money at the expense of everyone else.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Does this mean that all the reverse engineering videos, con talks, prof of exploit demos, CTF walkthroughs', and fuzzing tutorials will be removed? What about videos showing me how to use tools like Twistlock? Will they be exempt, but videos about burp be banned? What constitutes a "secure" computer system? Side note, I guess its time to fire up youtube-dl. Are there any channels that need to be archived? I normally…

I think ippsec recently set up a mirror for himself where you can download all of his videos, but his videos on youtube are tremendous help on my way to OSCP. He does walkthroughs of boxes hosted on hackthebox shortly after they retire.

It's a shame to see this type of content at risk of being blacklisted.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Youtube updating its policy to ban videos they have already monetized from, while the creators get nothing. Youtube is a monopoly. Creators need to get off YT, and onto something else if it exists.

Host yourself with PeerTube: https://joinpeertube.org/en/

came here to see what the alternative is.

Need to get some big names on platforms like this, or create a new channel/new star/from this.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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One effective way to protest this would be to report videos by high-profile companies such as Microsoft, Amazon, and Google itself. Take a few minutes to look for a video about Azure or AWS or GCP, or a video of a presentation at a conference around such things, and report it as Inappropriate content citing the relevant terms of service. Be very careful only to report content that conforms to the above description —…

It's called selective enforcement.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Not anymore a conspiracy theory. This is the actual big brother modeling our futures, a group of people powerful enough, with their own interests and their own agenda with access to most peoples minds/lives, and who already publicly explained how they plan to influence on global geopolitics and society building. I find it disturbing this level of censorship. At first, it was pedophiles, murders and violent criminal a…

EDIT: Removing my uncivil post.

I'm happy to see your well-articulated post at the top.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Can you cite your sources?

He's citing Project Veritas: https://spectator.org/google-removes-project-veritas-video-f... https://www.theverge.com/interface/2019/6/27/18760463/projec... Just a couple google results, cbf to find the actual video, I'm not promoting any particular viewpoint etc

Thank you. If Project Veritas is indeed what OP was referencing, then the claim can be easily dismissed without viewing the "source" footage, given Veritas' and O'Keefe's extensive history of selective editing, fraudulent claims, dubious methods and borderline entrapment[1].

Edit: If you're going to downvote me, note that I have no problem discussing why we should lend credence to claims from an individual with a long history of fraudulent claims. I am genuinely interested in hearing why we should trust anything PV produces going forward.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe#Major_works

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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> I have no idea how thinkspot is going to play out. I do. The uncensored alternative to a popular platform consistently attracts all the toxic users, making it a place nobody else wants to go. Voat is a relatively recent high-profile example.

That balance can be shifted if enough normal people get evicted, especially if the normal people tend to end up on some particular service, at least to start with. Probably the best reason Silicon Valley can understand to start thinking twice about whether they want to deplatform all the non-SV-liberals. (I initially said "conservatives" there, but given the discussion elsewhere on this page for someone who was depla…

> Probably the best reason Silicon Valley can understand to start thinking twice about whether they want to deplatform all the non-SV-liberals.

I suspect that YouTube's long-term strategy is to morph into a hybrid of Netflix and cable, and YouTubers who broadcast opinions outside the range of acceptable opinions to SV and advertisers are just an impedance to that goal. What they will do is boil the frog by making small changes over a period of time that all appear "reasonable" on their own.

Demonetization was one step in boiling the frog, but hard to argue against because it's in the best interest of advertisers and videos weren't being deleted. Then came changes to the algorithm that promotes videos, and now YouTube believes I "want" to watch more cable news and significantly less of Tim Pool or Joe Rogan. I'm surprised they haven't done more shadow-banning, and maybe that will be one of the following steps.

More incremental changes will be made, probably over several years, until all the interesting voices are gone and no one can point to any one event that made everyone except the left-wing and Rated-G channels leave. And the bulk of users probably won't care since they've been transitioned and conditioned to the resurgence of mainstream blather they'll be selling.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Not anymore a conspiracy theory. This is the actual big brother modeling our futures, a group of people powerful enough, with their own interests and their own agenda with access to most peoples minds/lives, and who already publicly explained how they plan to influence on global geopolitics and society building. I find it disturbing this level of censorship. At first, it was pedophiles, murders and violent criminal a…

>Not anymore a conspiracy theory. This is the actual big brother modeling our futures, No. This is a company that gets 99% of its income from selling ad space doing what they need to do to keep advertisers, their customers, happy. It is not a conspiracy, Big Brother isn't trying to censor you, YouTube is trying to keep their customers happy to keep money flowing in. I'm tired of people complaining YouTube demonetizin…

When they have more influence on citizens than governments, perhaps we should revisit our definition of what public means.

In the other hands, there has been already ideology ban and promotion of their own, and recently in a leaked video, they affirmed how they will stop promoting certain political views and promote the ones they find correct for the 2020 elections.

Laugh now at the leolingua described by George Orwell, what is freedom and what is public?

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