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I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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Re: I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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Also imagine meeting your wife because you did a search query. Since we're in a purely hypothetical plane, both of these are equally plausible.

That doesn't make any intuitive sense. Meeting people starts with conversations.

Searching an answer to your question on the internet doesn't mean you're not talking about it to someone else.

By your logic, we'd literally be silent 99% of the time, because 'we have all the answers,' which is nonsense.

Re: I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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Speaking as someone who writes blog posts littered with irrelevant pictures (but never on Medium!), I acknowledge your experience trying to solve a problem based on a blog post. Manpages and documentation are written to be references. Blog posts are written to be tutorials. They have different affordances, and as a result it is very hard to learn how to use something purely from a reference, and very different to sol…

There's one particular case where a look at a reference is warranted: when something doesn't behave as expected. For example, the other day someone asked on stackoverflow why a particular Java class to calculate a difference between two dates was returning a weird result when they asked for the difference in days. Turns out, the class would calculate the difference in years AND months AND days, so if you asked for th…

The problem with webdev is that JS has a lot less "standard" than other languages like Java, so a lot of times people either reinvent the wheel or import some package to deal with things that would be standard in a language like Java, and they implement things their own way.

The other problem is that you're not really fighting JS or CSS or HTML per se, but a browser implementation of interpreters for that. And you don't really have a say in the matter, because you're not picking what browsers are using your webapp, your users are. This is only really solvable using a combination of MDN, Stack Overflow, and Google-fu.

Re: I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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Google is not a search engine. It is a memory upgrade, and anybody who tries to write software with a standard human memory is obsolete.

So many people missed the point of this post that I ended up replying to it instead of them. "Memory upgrade" means not relying entirely on your own memory and previous knowledge. That doesn't exclude internalizing the language, nor coming up with new solutions. It probably changes a lot depending on what you do, but I've found it imperative to keep up to date with an ever-changing engine, and it would have been malp…

Not entirely related but I think its a good practice.

Anytime I learn something new, I create a simple project using that new thing as a way to memorize it better but also be able after few years revisit it and either remind myself about it or improve it.

Re: I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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So one of the things that the author should Google is “salesmanship“. Everybody uses Google as a reference, no shame in that. Everyone uses spell check also. But would you go into an interview and proclaim your a lousy typist dependent on spellcheck? Putting your full real name on a blog and announcing to the world that your a lousy developer, that is just as bad. Much like cops posting racists rants, people on disab…

The interviewer who expects me to have every little detail about every single technology I've used in the past stacked up in my mind, won't be worth my time, not to mention joining their company. The comparison to spelling prowess is apples and...melons. Use your favorite search engine to look up "what is the difference between insight and information?"

There are absolutely people out there who expect that — and they are usually the ones who can’t figure out why they can’t find anyone to fill their position. A lot of times a manager won’t interview someone until their people have, and it’s those front line people that are always the worst because they are fresh out of college and just like school they expect you to answer random questions from memory, obscure questions to make sure you didn’t just study up, and if your % correct is too low then goodbye. A lot of times they are the gate keepers to otherwise good positions, so helps to be prepared for them. Once your hired you can go turn down the brightness on their monitors to mess with them.

Re: I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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Using search engines sometimes feel like a lost art if you spend any time in Facebook groups, where people will ask mundande, simple, and easily Googleable questions. Sometimes I wonder if people do it to fill some sort of social need, and don't particularly care for the answer.

Every Google search you do is a lost opportunity for an unexpected conversation. Imagine never meeting a wife because you did a Google search instead.

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Re: I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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> One of the things I don't like about webdev (among many) is that I even have to Google in the first place. Manpages are so much more immediate and accessible. I don't really get this response. First there's the notion that "webdev" is the discipline where information is so fractured that you need to go googling around to figure out how to do everything. All the other disciplines have a magic thing called a man page…

Also the "manpage" does exist - it's the spec. But I've never met a single person who has ever directly read it.

Reading web specs at least once will save you a lot of time. You don’t need to memorize the things, but it helps learning about capabilities that are easy to miss and keywords that’s make searching far more efficient.

Re: I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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A big part of it is that imho technology has gotten more powerful, but still no easy to use. Like, I'm imagining in 20 years the API for Amazon's drone fleet will be here and we'll still be like "wait, the address parameter is for an IP address? And the library isn't thread-safe but also doesn't connection pool so I have to maintain one dronecloud client per thread? And what's this cryptic "rotor invert" error? It fe…

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Re: I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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post #25

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Wrong. Software is not so complicated that you have to Google search everything every time. If you are not internalizing new knowledge, you are performing poorly.

> Software is not so complicated What kind of software do you write? Software is one of the most unnecessary complex things humanity has invented.

I don't care how many years you've been programming, nobody git pulls a 10,000 class java codebase without nervously gulping.

Re: I’m not really a good web developer, I'm just good at Googling things

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> One of the things I don't like about webdev (among many) is that I even have to Google in the first place. Manpages are so much more immediate and accessible. I don't really get this response. First there's the notion that "webdev" is the discipline where information is so fractured that you need to go googling around to figure out how to do everything. All the other disciplines have a magic thing called a man page…

Also the "manpage" does exist - it's the spec. But I've never met a single person who has ever directly read it.

I used to read the specs, but I think I gave that up about 15 years ago as no longer practical.
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