Google Walkout Organizer Claire Stapleton Resigns • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Walkout Organizer Claire Stapleton Resigns

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Post by CryptoBanker » Sat, Jun 08, 2019, 6:25 PM UTC

ohaideredevs wrote: post #68

billy_beef wrote: post #51

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The tech world! Was trying to engage in dialog with the person I was responding to! You seem pretty upset so maybe chill out before engaging, have a good day!

"You seem pretty upset" is a pretty passive aggressive statement. In fact, it's openly hostile since it's tantamount to stating that I am not in control of my (perceived by you) emotions (of which there are actually none). Coupled with you pretending to be the aggrieved, polite party, the irony is thick. In fact, needing to write this reply is pretty comical, thanks for the entertainment, I guess. Edit: The more I th…

It was probably your aggressive "no one cares" that got people thinking you're in a bad mood...

Re: Google Walkout Organizer Claire Stapleton Resigns

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Post by rstuart4133 » Sat, Jun 08, 2019, 11:55 PM UTC

paul7986 wrote: post #39

0815test wrote: post #4

She walked out for good. Gotta admire her integrity! Also this from her post just hits the nail on the head: > [Google leadership] are talking to everyone who thought my story sounded familiar, anyone who’s been Through It in some form: pushed out or punished for speaking up, gaslit, discriminated against, isolated, harassed. People are telling each other their stories. Refusing to acknowledge our humanity and engage…

Their arrogance and ignorance is already affecting them as many people I know no longer use Google search. Also check out DuckDuckGo on Alexa ... its now the 100th most popular site in the US and continues to increase its reach; 167 globally. Love to get away fully from Google myself! They are horrible and personally their arrogance and ignorance is catching up to them!

> Their arrogance and ignorance is already affecting them as many people I know no longer use Google search.

You're kidding yourself. Those people you know who are switching are having no material effect whatsoever:

http://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share

If anything, their market share is going up.

Re: Google Walkout Organizer Claire Stapleton Resigns

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Post by busterarm » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 3:45 PM UTC

CodiePetersen wrote: post #134

Shivetya wrote: post #62

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Eventually if they tarnish their image sufficiently the good workers will move on. However we here and elsewhere on discussion sites vastly over estimate how unhappy workers are at a particular job. Just because we would not want to work there or heard anecdotally on an issue does not mean the company is doing things incorrectly. A company this large is bound to have employee conflicts all over the place and it is up…

Well it literally is in the news and loads of people walked out on google until they listened. Also they have a global pool of talent they can hire if they don't want to meet demands. Executives I can see being a big hit if they left in protest. But with 90 million dollar reward for forcing a subordinate to give oral sex as your punishement, I'm doubting they'll leave because they've likely got it pretty cushy. What'…

> But with 90 million dollar reward for forcing a subordinate to give oral sex as your punishement

You say that as if the author of Android should be given no compensation for making Google billions of dollars. While that may feel like justice, it would absolutely guarantee that nobody brings their open source project to Google ever again.

Re: Google Walkout Organizer Claire Stapleton Resigns

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Post by paul7986 » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 4:15 PM UTC

rstuart4133 wrote: post #162

paul7986 wrote: post #39

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Their arrogance and ignorance is already affecting them as many people I know no longer use Google search. Also check out DuckDuckGo on Alexa ... its now the 100th most popular site in the US and continues to increase its reach; 167 globally. Love to get away fully from Google myself! They are horrible and personally their arrogance and ignorance is catching up to them!

> Their arrogance and ignorance is already affecting them as many people I know no longer use Google search. You're kidding yourself. Those people you know who are switching are having no material effect whatsoever: http://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share If anything, their market share is going up.

Google won't be the same company in a few years or so! They are no longer the same company (not run or driven by it's founder's ethos)... most recently saying they will block ad blockers.

Apple is all in on privacy ...Apple is as big or bigger then Google and makes it's money off of hardware & software not invasive/intrusive ads. Those who ride their same wave will no doubt see huge and or continued success!

Check back on that counter in a few years! It will be a different story I guarantee you!

Re: Google Walkout Organizer Claire Stapleton Resigns

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Post by jjdjr0odo7 » Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 3:53 PM UTC

jm4 wrote: post #131

jjdjr0odo7 wrote: post #98

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Slippery slope is an informal fallacy. Why not legislation? It’s THE way for organizing our society. Do you really think it’s a free market and meritocracy? No. There are laws that incentivize and offer protection for starting corporations. Our society is not built on objective principles but on what’s good for it. And it’s never lurched forward in ways that move the needle to the benefit of the masses without top do…

The people who work at Google who wanted to stage a walkout are free to leave for another job. They are free to start their own companies. We are free to use other products or create our own. How is legislation the best solution here? People need to stop with the excuses and the expectation that someone else will change the rules to fix their problem and be the change they want to see in the world. Google will eventu…

You’re talking about free as in libre, but the world runs on costly beer.

Are they free to just inflate their bank accounts to cover the expenses?

You’re also completely forgetting biology as a science, while focusing strictly on peddling the same cable news level rhetoric that’s been debunked by neuroscience over and over: our brains prevent us from upending our reality.

You’re forgetting how easy it is to fail at such endeavors. That is some anxiety inducing stuff, and even people like Bezos didn’t bet THEIR money alone on it: he had 22 rich investors prop him up.

You’re not the sort of person I will ever agree with politically, and that’s fine. That’s great actually; your apathy for engaging the political system means more room for voices like mine that engages my elected officials and others across state lines, weekly.

Please, continue sitting online debating into the void. It keeps you out of our way.