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Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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mathieuh wrote: post #151
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #119

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Thank you for your question :) We block any and all code scripts/styles from executing outside of emails. We don't block images though - if we did then the emails you could usually receive with images will feel plain.. won't it? If I understand you correctly?

I haven’t seen an email with images in years because I always use clients which allow disabling auto-loading. If I get an email with images it’s usually an email I didn’t want and I block the sender shortly thereafter. Real people don’t tend to send emails with images that are important for understanding the textual content.

I love your breakdown of emails here.

It's truly eye-opening. I hope that others feel the same?

In any case, I have taken note of your points and will look into this asap!

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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js2 wrote: post #147
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #111

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I like it! How about: "Enhance Gmail to get your Google Inbox features back. Productivity awaits!". This was suggested by another user :) Do you mean trademark notices with Google?

Yeah, wasn't sure if Gmail is trademarked and if it is, whether you need a notice.

I really don't think so!

It was Google themselves who reviewed DarwinMail :)

They took their time too, let me tell you!

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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ddalex wrote: post #149
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #39

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Part 1: I understand your worry. It's perfectly within the realm of reason. Please allow me to help alleviate your worries. The following are a list of the permissions DarwinMail requests of you. PS: WE NEVER store any email data that belongs to you. Google has verified our compliance via a lengthy audit! Manage mailbox labels — this allows DarwinMail to add and remove labels (inbox, snoozed, spam, etc) to your email…

Thanks for the pointers. I understand well how the OAuth scopes work. What I don't understand is - if the server doesn't handle my email, why does this need to be hosted on a server? Package it as a browser extension and this way I can be sure that my email is not leaked.

Wow. This is an eye-opening comment.

I like your point. It's fascinating.

Right now, I need to look into the implications of running DarwinMail as a browser extension would be. To be sure your security would be maintained, the core functionality is not lost and DarwinMail remains usable (landing page with about, features, testimonials, pricing etc).

Thank you for your suggestion!

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp »

1123581321 wrote: post #131
teleclimber wrote: post #118

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I'm just suggesting that a service that touches email would benefit from being easier to trust. I never said he should commit to never making money or anything close to that. Like you literally invented that. In fact I suggested he look into the open source + hosted business model. Ghost seems to be doing alright with it: https://blog.ghost.org/5/ > It seems like it would be easier for you to just not evaluate new ma…

You said “Yes, if you make it Open Source and possible to self-host it goes from DOA to definitely possible.[...] Hopefully you can still make a living. I suspect "open source + commercially hosted" is a good model for something like this?” That means that you would not consider using by it unless you could use it for free, presuming you wouldn’t qualify for a commercial license. I only summarized what you said.

It can be difficult to make a living from your projects as an indie developer.

Thank you for understanding :)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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vldr wrote: post #157

I can't seem to get passed the authentication with firefox. chromium works fine.

Ohhh noes!

Can you please take a screenshot & upload to Imgur? Show me your console please as I will know exactly what to do then! (From the loading screen -> right click -> inspect -> click the console tab)

I will be able to see then and fix it for you!

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp »

fiatjaf wrote: post #107

I'm desperate for a Gmail replacement that uses the Gmail API. I'll give this a try because I didn't find any other one and the canonical Gmail web client is utterly broken, too heavy, too slow. I don't want any enhancements, just basic email threads. Does anyone have a recommendation?

That's quite fascinating! Thank you for the interesting perspective :) I will mock up some minimal interface designs. Perhaps a mail distraction free mode (we currently support a distraction-free mode for typing emails). This could be very cool :D

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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leesalminen wrote: post #154
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #123

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Nope! It doesn't send the email until after 0 - 30 seconds, so you have a chance to undo it :)

So, if I were to close the app at second 17, the email wouldn’t get sent?

That is correct. However, would you think again if a little pop-up reminder told you just before you exited the app? To be fair though, I keep my email tab opened all day. I never close it!

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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spectramax wrote: post #155
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #140

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That's quite fascinating! Thank you for the interesting perspective :) I will mock up some minimal interface designs. Perhaps a mail distraction free mode (we currently support a distraction-free mode for typing emails). This could be very cool :D Thank you so much! They're not (I don't think ha!). Could you tell me more about how a custom domain would work with DarwinMail?

Custom domain as in, email@mydomain.com.

Thank you for your follow up :)

I know what you mean by custom domains, I'm just not sure how they would be used with DarwinMail?

What significance do they have in this context?

Sorry I may be missing the point entirely! :)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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vijaybritto wrote: post #156
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #121

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That is definitely a bug! Can you tell me more? Perhaps show me your console output? (Right click -> inspect -> click the console tab)

Sorry I'm in mobile now

That's ok :)

Please let me know when you can and I will look into fixing that right away :)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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ddalex wrote: post #146
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #121

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That is definitely a bug! Can you tell me more? Perhaps show me your console output? (Right click -> inspect -> click the console tab)

I had excellent experience with Sentry ( https://sentry.io/welcome/ ) to capture errors that happen on the client side in production. You need to be careful with the sensitive data that gets sent to Sentry, but it's a good tool. Not being affiliated with them in any way, just a tool I find helpful.

Thank you so much for the suggestion :)

I love Sentry, but I don't think I should use it here.

We are dealing with users emails, and I want to be as transparent as possible.

I really should not add another product to the mix until I have earned enough trust and proven that DarwinMail is in no way malicious.

I simply want DarwinMail to be a no-strings-attached upgrade for us.

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