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Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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I got curious and did the math: US gas pumps do 10 gallons per minute, which give us 0.61 L/s. Density is about 0.7kg/L, energy content is about 46.7 MJ/kg. Multiplying the three we get juuust under 20MJ/s or 20MW or about 80 times more energy than this kind of electric charger

The difference reminds me of the energy efficiency a EV has.

It should remind you mostly of how much longer does it takes to recharge rather than refill.

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Is this compatible with European charger standards?

Not sure what you mean. The current European superchargers use a Type 2 Mennekes adapter, but the protocol is proprietary. I gather that European Model 3s will have CCS sockets (a superset of pins of Type 2 Mennekes) so they will be able to charge at other networks' stations.

They already have, as the Model 3 started deliveries in Europe in February. There are thousands of Model 3 in Europe by now :)

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I got curious and did the math: US gas pumps do 10 gallons per minute, which give us 0.61 L/s. Density is about 0.7kg/L, energy content is about 46.7 MJ/kg. Multiplying the three we get juuust under 20MJ/s or 20MW or about 80 times more energy than this kind of electric charger

Whoa. That is a lot of efficiency with EVs. But then, that electricity, when coming from a coal powered plant means that the overall "earth to wheels" energy efficiency is somewhere around 30%.

True. But also, this decouples cars from fossil fuel dependency. So switching to something cleaner, like nuclear or wind/solar wouldn't require uprooting cars as a whole.

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This is awesome. I'm particularly happy about the on-route battery warming. Since I can't charge at my apartment, I tend to charge my car in the morning. If it is around freezing temperatures, it will charge at a rate of 0 miles per hour.

Can you speak more to this? Similar situation. Interested in a Tesla but live in an apartment without a station but during winter have well below freezing and sub zero temps. Seems difficult.

You might enjoy this chap's videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland/videos

He's in Sweden, so it's pretty cold, and he tests a bunch of EV models on a bunch of fast chargers.

It has some of the usual flaws Youtube content does, but he seems a lot more thorough and better informed than most car journalism.

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My local utility seems to offer it, though they prefer that you install a transformer. They also offer 3-phase for residential usage. Yes, this is in the USA. From what I can tell, most likely you'd get 480 volts at 500 amps. There is actually a home not far from me that gets 3-phase. It is hooked up to a commercial-style air conditioning unit (huge house) and has a separate power meter; the home has separate 2-phase…

(I'm going to abuse the hell out of terminology to make this understandable) I'm sure there are some utilities somewhere that will offer you that :) 480 volt at 500 amps is actually fairly reasonable in terms of cable requirements (it only requires 800 kcmil cable, which, while, i'd never want to buy a ton of it, is not completely bonkers). I would be a little surprised if they offer 500 amps though, because that's a…

And to be more pedantic, it's actually kVA and not kW.

Or kW with a power factor of 1, but that is (almost) never the case

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Looks like 100kw less than already existing non-Tesla 350kw chargers.

There are quite a lot 350kw charger boxes, but unfortunately, most of them still have standard CCS-cables, limiting the maximum current to 200A. This means, for most cars they are limited to about 80kW charging speed (400V). It would be cool though, if Tesla quickly rolled out the software updates to the European Model 3s, as they then could use the 350kW chargers for higher charging speeds as soon as the chargers support higher currents.

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I wonder if one day highways will have wireless power transfer that can meter you as you go.

Germany is building a wired one on A1 (5km length). Overhead contact line for trucks and looks ugly: http://www.thedrive.com/news/13448/germany-to-install-overhe...

I'm getting a wall:

    No Access
    The web page you were trying to visit is not accessible in your country.
Lithuania (Europe) here. Is this GDPR thing or something more?

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Yeh but you got to hire a good team and he really does that

Then he fires them constantly or frustrates the hell out of them until they quit. Elon is a bad boss.

Only those who just can’t handle him.

Plenty of people does not mind working for him.

See this survey

https://insideevs.com/tesla-spacex-employees-confident-elon-...

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Yeh but you got to hire a good team and he really does that

Then he fires them constantly or frustrates the hell out of them until they quit. Elon is a bad boss.

I'd much rather have a shitty boss with great vision than a great boss with shitty mission (e.g. advertising or something).
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