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What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by fgandiya »

taurath wrote: post #18
mirceal wrote: post #16

The weight loss is not really what matters. anybody can lose weight. with a little education you can do it. the problem is doing it in a sustainable way and to actually keep it off. the hardest part about weight loss is keeping it off. you have limited will power and unless you are willing to change the way you live your efforts are in vain. Sure it may make you feel good about yourself and your journey but it's doom…

Your comments while I agree with the correctness are incredibly disheartening and demotivating.

I heard this perspective once.

People struggle getting of cigarettes multiple times even after a year long break. So sure you fail at weightless, but you can try again.

The only issue I have with the view is that losing and gaining weight over and over again can place a toll on your body.

Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by claudiawerner »

sl1ck731 wrote: post #112

My anecdote: I lose weight very easily by CICO. Over the course of of a few months in college I ate a very strict diet of x calories. At the time it was something like 1100/day as a ~200lb 21 year old. Supposedly dangerous, but a lot of things are. Anyway, by keeping an excel sheet of the exact calories I ate every day, minus my calculated metabolic rate, I knew exactly what %/lb I lost per day/week. I kept such good…

I'm about 145lb 22 y/o, and also doing 1100 calories/day but usually in the form of one meal for dinner. How did you calculate the amount you should lose per day/week? I'm interested in filling such a spreadsheet myself.

Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by thesnowdog »

Fricken wrote: post #46

I had read somewhere that after about 45 minutes of cardio your body will start using it's fat stores, and continue burning fat for 6 to 8 hours afterwards. So when I found myself overweight I started doing long trail runs or bike rides, about 2 hours long, 3 times a week. Insomuch as I looked forward to doing the exercise, losing 3-5 pounds a week was nearly effortless. My appetite actually goes down during these pe…

I've always been told the same thing but my experience pretty much matches yours.

I can eat what I want as long as I keep up my daily 7km walk which takes me about an hour or so. I've always found walking easy but I've never been able to run more than 500m probably due to being a somewhat sickly kid with annual bronchitis and a limited lung capacity.

The handful of times I've stopped walking for various reasons over the last twenty years I've quickly got up to about 120kg (I'm 6'7") but as soon as I start walking again the excess 20kg falls off pretty quickly in a month or two and maintaining 100kg is simple.

I've never had any luck modifying my diet.

Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by a_f »

aabajian wrote: post #52

Amphetamines were popularly used to suppress appetite in the mid-20th century, but addiction and abuse proved disastrous. He glosses over amphetamines. They are highly effective at weight loss. So much so that ADHD patients have the stereotypical "Adderall skinniness" after 1-2 years of use. Addiction is a problem with stimulants, but psychiatrist routinely assess for addiction in the ADHD population. Why not prescri…

I believe there is a significant risk of heart conditions arising from stimulant use.

Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by EForEndeavour »

kwanbix wrote: post #160
rdm_blackhole wrote: post #64

A couple of years ago I found myself weighing 250lbs. Basically morbidly obese. I decided to change that. I went through all the food I bought during the week and decided to do some culling. I removed anything with sugar and replaced it with Stevia. Removed the soft drinks, alcohol, and carbs. I follow this diet 6 days a week. One day a week, I indulge myself: a pizza or burrito or have a few beers. I also go to the…

> I also go to the gym 5 times a week. Run 5k in 25 minutes plus one hour of weight lifting. Nothing to intense mind you. You consider running 5 kilometers a day, and doing one hour of weight lifting to be non intense? wow.

Yeah, 5k in 25 minutes is by no means an easy jog for most people, and places OP in the average race pace, according to https://www.verywellfit.com/what-is-a-good-time-for-a-5k-291... (grain of salt, but they have more data than I do). Mind you, I interpret OP to mean that this is their current workout routine, after their dramatic weight loss and increase in fitness.

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Post by rchaud »

Kaibeezy wrote: post #151
vajenetehais wrote: post #95

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I lost 20% of my wheight with this diet (under 20g carbs daily), in 1 year. my fat ratio was too high, now it's good. I would never eat carbs again... Benefits are really great: mood, energy (no peak or bottom), clear mind (no dizzy when hungry or full), actually never hungry (my stomach never scream), full very fast (fat will make you full fast). Yes sometimes i would like to eat a cake. I did it once. there was too…

“made me sick” Convincing myself a particular food is disgusting has been an effective way to cut it from my diet. Started with donuts. Horrible greasy dough blobs, dripping with artificially colored sticky, bug-collecting sugar slime. Blehhhh. (Unless it’s hot out of the fat at Bob’s or Leonard’s, then it’s something completely different.) Next up was fries/chips. Horrid frozen potatoes coated in preservatives, suga…

I watched an ancient Tony Robbins video where a member of the audience came up and said his biggest food issue was pizza. Robbins spent 7 minutes getting him to reimagine pizza as a digusting, mold-covered triangle.

I don't think that strategy would work for me. I understand trying to reframe things in a different way, but come on, unless they find a way to make pizza smell bad, I'm never going to believe it's a "disgusting" food I should avoid. It's just an unhealthy, carb-loaded food that's easy to binge on.

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Post by n4r9 »

sridca wrote: post #149
n4r9 wrote: post #121

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I've read that fasting can increase GH levels. Do you know of any studies that directly link fasting to muscle growth? Intuitively I would guess that increased GH in the absence of a calorie surplus might lead to good muscle maintenance but poor muscle growth , particularly in people who already have a decent amount of muscle.

I do not know of studies, other than anecdotes such as this one: > So, during the FMD I lost approximately 4.2 lbs of body fat, while GAINING nearly a pound of muscle! There was also a nice muscle building “rebound” effect once my fast ended and I began to exercise again. https://www.quantifiedbob.com/fasting-mimicking-diet/

That seems extremely dubious, given:

> during my fast I refrained from any physical activity – no workouts or sports

and:

> for this experiment my Omron scale had to do since I didn’t have access to more accurate body composition tools

Re: What I learned from reading over 100 weight loss studies

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Post by hnuser1234 »

ramblerman wrote: post #99
hnuser1234 wrote: post #63

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If you are a 300 pound person and want to be a 150 pound person, you have to eat like a 150 pound person. Forever.

You are both correct, not sure why OP is downvoted though. If your caloric requirements are 2400 calories a day. You might eat at a deficit for your diet, say 1700. And after that you can eat 2400 again.

As body mass increases, the caloric intake required to maintain said mass increases. Likewise, as body mass decreases the caloric intake required to maintain said mass decreases. Fat people need to eat like the not-fat version of themselves in order to both lose weight and maintain their new mass. If "balance" is 2400 calories for their fat body, resuming eating 2400 calories will lead to them becoming fat again.

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Post by jki275 »

n4r9 wrote: post #167
sridca wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not know of studies, other than anecdotes such as this one: > So, during the FMD I lost approximately 4.2 lbs of body fat, while GAINING nearly a pound of muscle! There was also a nice muscle building “rebound” effect once my fast ended and I began to exercise again. https://www.quantifiedbob.com/fasting-mimicking-diet/

That seems extremely dubious, given: > during my fast I refrained from any physical activity – no workouts or sports and: > for this experiment my Omron scale had to do since I didn’t have access to more accurate body composition tools

As someone who regularly fasts for a variety of reasons, I would agree -- it's nearly impossible to gain muscle while fasting anyway, and without working out in any way I can't imagine how that could happen at all.

But most likely the tool is measuring inaccurately.

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Post by kortilla »

taneq wrote: post #86
kranner wrote: post #68

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Everybody who's trying to lose weight knows it is about sustaining a calorie deficit. The problem is how.

Decide that you want to not be fat more than you want to over-eat. Then choose to sustain that decision by re-affirming it daily.

Well fuck, why didn’t anyone think of that?!
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