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Re: China's Moon mission sees first seeds sprout

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It's more to do with dissing any -stan country by using the phrase I reckon. I think we strive to be better than that here.

I see, thanks. The term -stan just means -land, I used it to deliberately have a foreign-sounding place for "other". I now know to be more politically correct. I'm sitting in a room with people from Uzbekistan and Kazahstan, they have absolutely no problem with the use of the term!

Not saying you intended it this way, but "shitistan" implies a dismissive attitude towards the Middle East (because "sending a drone" strongly suggests Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc) by creating a category of "any of those countries ending of -stan" (implying they're all roughly equal as far as you're concerned) and via the expletive portraying them as inherently inferior, poorer, etc. This is basically the level of discourse you expect from 4chan and its wider ecosystem, not HN.

Keep in mind that "these people who are X say they have no problem when I say this about X" is a bad test. Even ignoring the fact some people are just too polite (or anxious or oblivious or ...) to explicitly tell you when you're behaving badly, that defense is basically a version of "some of my best friends are black".

This has nothing to do with political correctness. It's just about respect. Consider it this way: the reason you don't call someone who's black the n-word isn't that it's offensive but that it's just an extremely bad way to behave yourself. If you say "black" instead, that may be more "politically correct" but if your attitudes are the same, it only makes it harder to call you out but it's not much less hostile.

IOW using a different word doesn't really help if your attitude is the same. But on the off chance you're blissfully unaware of the public attitude around "the -stans" (especially post-9/11, especially in the US) maybe just don't try to be edgy by coming up with what could easily pass for slurs when talking about things you are merely disinterested in.

Re: China's Moon mission sees first seeds sprout

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Solving just about any of our sustainability problems on earth will be easier and less work than establishing a self-sustaining colony any place else.

Learning to swim in a shallow pool is _easier_ than just getting thrown into the deep end, but it's not faster, and the learning isn't as likely to occur.

In reality most people who are unable to swim and are thrown into the "deep end" would just drown, making it quite unlikely that any learning will occur ever again...

Re: China's Moon mission sees first seeds sprout

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But why should you have a 100% complete industry, a colony can trade with Earth like countries trade with each other, a colony could trade some rare resources and buy high tech stuff. The main obstacle a colony will have is the initial buildings/bunker with all the life support and safety tech, plus extra redundancy and a backup plan if something bad happens there or on Earth . If the colony would manage to generate…

Sure, becoming 100% self sufficient wouldn't be a reasonable short term goal but I can't imagine there being any product worth trading in the long term over such distance and given such cost for logistics?

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Re: China's Moon mission sees first seeds sprout

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post #161

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I see, thanks. The term -stan just means -land, I used it to deliberately have a foreign-sounding place for "other". I now know to be more politically correct. I'm sitting in a room with people from Uzbekistan and Kazahstan, they have absolutely no problem with the use of the term!

Not saying you intended it this way, but "shitistan" implies a dismissive attitude towards the Middle East (because "sending a drone" strongly suggests Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc) by creating a category of "any of those countries ending of -stan" (implying they're all roughly equal as far as you're concerned) and via the expletive portraying them as inherently inferior, poorer, etc. This is basically the level of dis…

Thanks. For what it's worth, I live in the middle east.
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