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CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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How would a rural WISP "get some datacenters" on its network? Sorry, I'm not grasping your previous comment.

If you have the problem that peering is getting very one-sided, the solution is to get the other side as well. So a rural ISP should try to expand into an area with cheap power and offer low-cost hosting and bandwidth to attract servers.

Hard to do that when everyone runs everything in the cloud. That's a very tough market to crack into.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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post #156
post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would a rural WISP "get some datacenters" on its network? Sorry, I'm not grasping your previous comment.

If you have the problem that peering is getting very one-sided, the solution is to get the other side as well. So a rural ISP should try to expand into an area with cheap power and offer low-cost hosting and bandwidth to attract servers.

This is downright silly. The bulk of bandwidth is associated with a select few destinations that aren't going to put their datacenters behind a consumer isp under any circumstances. But many do offer caching options that allow content to be sourced inside the ISP.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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> With the rise of streaming, peering arrangements are more lopsided than ever and ISPs are actually having to pay for their own internet access. Don’t most ISPs cache this sort of content closer to their customers? Netflix at least offers to install hardware that does this.

YouTube and Netflix cache boxes are important for smaller ISP's. Their cache performance can literally make or break the monthly P&L. That said, I haven't heard about other OTT services offering a caching appliance. And there are more and more OTT streaming services coming. It's great from a consumer perspective, but it's going to be challenging for smaller players.

Moving towards decentralised internet infrastructure such as https://ipfs.io could help with this. ISPs setting up IPFS caches for their customers could save a LOT of peering bandwidth.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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I was visiting my SO's parents in Portland for the holidays when this happened. Their cable TV stopped working for at least two days and we all got an emergency services text with the local emergency number because 911 wasn't going to work. (At least their Internet through CenturyLink remained working.) This also happened to coincide with them receiving a notice of a $50/month increase on their bill from CenturyLink,…

> This is what happens when you treat IT like a cost center and don't provide the necessary funds to tackle technical debt and keep your services up and running: Especially now with cordcutting becoming the norm and traditional cable subscription number dropping, large providers are scrambling to find ways to extract profit. With the rise of streaming, peering arrangements are more lopsided than ever and ISPs are act…

I'm not sure... hell WB will have 3 services... WB/CBS/DC-Universe etc... Netflix, Hulu, some TV alternative (Hulu Live, Sling, etc). It all adds up, and may not be a value. I swear, if the GF wasn't hooked on Bravo, I'd give it all up and just pirate everything again. I honestly do some shows just because it's easier to use my seedbox and grab everything new that I watch once a week or so, and work through the new episodes.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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> until we discovered it's successor Which is?

Ensuring all layer 2 domains are loop free by design and moving all redundancy to layer 3 and routing protocols.

> Ensuring all layer 2 domains are loop free by design

Impossible, unfortunately, or we wouldn't need STP.

> and moving all redundancy to layer 3 and routing protocols.

Not always possible either, sadly. Works well for new deployments, can difficult to retrofit into older deployments depending on the scale and applications involved.

Re: CenturyLink 911 outage was caused by a single network card sending bad packets

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I don't think that's fair to say. Billions of people unlock their phone or log in to their computers every morning and everything works, pretty much all of the time.

If you're a hipster in a major city near fiber, sure, it all works great. For the rest of us, no, daily failures are the reality.

That´s not a failure of TCP.
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