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UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by psandersen »

russdill wrote: post #148
narrator wrote: post #77

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I like the Zoo hypothesis. We do that to North Sentinel Island[1]. It is populated by 50-400 stone age tribes people. India does not prosecute them for murdering anyone who happens to land on their island. Previous contacts with these people led to them rapidly dying of diseases they didn't have immunity to, so staying uncontacted is literally a life or death issue for them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Se…

I think it's bizarre that the fact that we have absolutely zero evidence for aliens actually gives a little weight to things like the zoo hypothesis.

Technically every hypothesis that fits our data should get a little weight, plus our best available models of the universe show there should be billions of planets as habitable as ours.

That is evidence in the abstract sense and we currently lack the technology to observe these candidate planets in enough detail to test the models further.

We're like a person sitting in the desert at night with nothing but a candle concluding that the planet is completely deserted because they can't see anyone else.

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Post by bonzini »

weberc2 wrote: post #28
mikeash wrote: post #24

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They’re anti-collision lights. They have to be really bright to be effective at interstellar speeds.

Interstellar speeds certainly must be in excess of the speed of light (or those creatures are chill with cruising for thousands of years), so they wouldn't do much good. :)

There's always time dilation...

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Post by blurbleblurble »

Carl Jung wrote about UFOs as something of a collective hallucination, a mass psycho-spiritual phenomenon. Not in the sense that they are "unreal", but in that they tap into an extraordinary dimension of our collective awareness.

I suggest checking out "Flying Saucers: a Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Sky."

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Post by kromem »

evilturnip wrote: post #23

I'll also put my tinfoil hat on, since I've had a long fascination with anamolous phenomenon. I still think the jury's out on what exactly is going on, but one thing that's consistent worldwide is that balls of light are associated with UFOs, bigfoot, poltergeists, etc. My rational mind doesn't really believe in all of this, but if it did, I think I'd take Jacques Vallee's theory seriously. Jacques Vallee is an astro…

The time travel argument I've always found to be far more compelling than the extra terrestrial argument.

For example, similarity of physical form (with exaggerated evolutionary aspects relating to modern society, such as bigger eyes/brains, and diminished aspects that would be obsolete, such as weakened physical strength).

And in a universe where different systems could be billions of years different in age, the UFOs have always seemed closer to a few thousands of years off from current technology at best.

And yet there's zero evidence of even life, let alone advanced life, in our near proximity. Wouldn't it make more sense that the advanced species that's in near physical proximity to ourselves (i.e. humans) would be responsible for flying objects very similar to our own flying objects and supposedly operated by bipeds looking very similar to ourselves?

And the physical rules bring broken to enable time travel are roughly the same rules that would need to be broken for faster than light travel, so the scientific likelihood for time traveling UFOs is roughly the same as for extra-terrestrial UFOs, but the former makes a lot more sense in other regards than the latter.

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Post by joshuaheard »

minota wrote: post #80
evilturnip wrote: post #23

I'll also put my tinfoil hat on, since I've had a long fascination with anamolous phenomenon. I still think the jury's out on what exactly is going on, but one thing that's consistent worldwide is that balls of light are associated with UFOs, bigfoot, poltergeists, etc. My rational mind doesn't really believe in all of this, but if it did, I think I'd take Jacques Vallee's theory seriously. Jacques Vallee is an astro…

Interesting. A possible explanation for some strange and poorly understood phenomenon accompanied by bright lights could be "earthquake lights", bright lights that appear in the sky around the time of an earthquake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEwKrvepH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4 Not to say that it applies to this particular case. Just goes to show that there is much to this natural world we do…

I have been through several earthquakes and have seen power pole transformers spark and explode as the oil inside splashes about and is ignited by the electricty. This could be a possible explanation for "earthquake lights".

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Post by passwordreset »

trainingaccount wrote: post #145
jonhohle wrote: post #111

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I've been developing a theory about abduction stories overlapping with MK Ultra-type experimentation. There seem to be a fair number of parallels in the type of activities done to subjects of the MK projects (allegedly) and casting the alien abduction story on the victims makes deniability straight forward. I haven't thought much about UFO sightings. I always find the ones with video, especially from arial sources in…

Now that everybody has a cellphone camera there are fewer UFO sitings instead of more, so it seems.

In what way does it seem like that? There are many, many more _sightings_ in the current decade than the last, with a repeating pattern for about 50 to 70 years or so. Cellphone cameras are partially responsible for that, but unfortunately camera quality of most phones kinda sucks. That represents a different set of problems.

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Post by mothsonasloth »

infradig wrote: post #81

Not to put a downer on speculation but probably military jets that lit the afterburners and zoomed away. My first thought was F-111s, but since it seems they were radar quiet, maybe stealth planes.

I think you mean F-117 nighthawk, which was decommissioned.

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Post by jpindar »

toss1 wrote: post #130
zero_iq wrote: post #67

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I remember in the 90s tuning into "space night" on a German satellite channel when I got home from the pub. Just continuous video feeds from low earth orbit with electronica/chillout playing over the top. Was really relaxing to have on in the background. I can imagine working from home with something like that on in the background and occasionally looking up to "see where we are now" - would give me some sense of tra…

that sounds awesome! I wonder if there's anything like that available now. Anybody have any links?

NASA has some.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream

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