Ford Buying San Francisco-Area E-Scooter Startup Spin

Post by ryanmercer » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 8:24 PM UTC

telchar wrote: post #144

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>To anyone bitching about stop signs, they should be bitching about the lack of roundabouts. Uh. Roundabouts cost orders of magnitude more than stop signs and eat up several times as much space as a standard intersection. https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/innovative/roundabo... >The average construction cost of roundabouts is estimated at approximately $250,000[2]. Roundabouts discussed in this report ranged i…

That's not a good comparison, you're neglecting the cost of actually building the non-roundabout intersection and just looking at the cost of the signs. Consider the cost to build each from scratch.

Post by superfrank » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 8:27 PM UTC

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Good luck to you, it's a dangerous game you're playing. It just takes one idiot in a car who doesn't notice you because they're checking their instagram feed, or whatever, for your life to be over. I knew someone growing up who was a very successful banker. He had everything - 3 kids, a beautiful wife, amazing house, etc. Cycled to work every day. One day, someone didn't see him. Doctors managed to save his life but…

I also knew someone who was very successful and died too young leaving behind 3 kids, a beautiful wife, amazing house etc. (I'm not being flip, this is true). He died in a car accident. I'll take the relatively small risk of being hit while biking in exchange for the 100% chance of the very positive benefits (free exercise, no traffic, free parking). Driving has about the same risk of killing you and 100% chance of m…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 8:29 PM UTC

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>They belong in the bike lane (which should exist in the first place) the problem is the existence of bike lanes. If public officials start saying "scooters belong in the bike lane", then they have to confront the fact that their cities have no cohesive network of bike lanes that can actually support a real journey. This has been acceptable up until now, because cyclists are weird and it's okay to tell them to just r…

> because cyclists are weird and it's okay to tell them to just ride in amongst trucks travelling 40mph. This is unsustainable. It's caused blowback from cyclists. "Fine, you want me to play in traffic, I'm going to start doing some dumb shit." I say this as a cyclist, I'm doing only 5 miles round trip but I do it every day. I see people blow red lights, weaving in and out of traffic, hopping onto the sidewalk, blast…

Post by dangwu » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 8:30 PM UTC

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You have to be 18 years old with a driver's license to ride Bird scooters.

Theoretically.

Post by ehaliewicz2 » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 8:31 PM UTC

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Personal anecdote, cyclists blow through stop signs because the infrastructure isn't built for bicycles. Having to come to a stop and then start up on a bicycle is the hardest part and cyclists hate it. Source: Commuting to work on a bicycle for years.

Exactly. People who don't bike don't understand. Imagine having to effectively park you car every single time a stop was legally required. All moving vehicles should be operated safely, but obeying a stop sign, just because its a stop sign isnt always safe, or efficient. @drRogers below me... To anyone bitching about stop signs, they should be bitching about the lack of roundabouts. There are myriad ways to design in…