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At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that called “right to work”?

As far as I can tell, "right to work" means "you can quit any time for no reason, and we can fire you any time for no reason, and we're going to pretend that this is an equal trade."

That's called "at-will" employment. Right to work is specifically about not having to join a union or pay dues.

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I had the exact same experience with a well known startup in SF. I got a glowing "Outstanding" review in the previous quarter. My manager left and the new manager who came in took just 15 days (with a single one on one meeting) to decide she din't like me and fired me without offering much of a reason.

UT Austin was much like that for me. Highest possible ratings from the previous manager, and then the new manager was hired. Technically, I was caught in the campus-wide 10% across-the-board layoffs, but it's very clear why I was made eligible for that list. Funny that it happened to be the same month that I was recovering from surgery to remove my cancerous thyroid gland.

Ouch!! That's heartless. Got recruited into a role by a friend who a few months later decided to pack up and go back to his previous company. My gall bladder died and went necrotic nearly killing me. I came back from the hospital to find an email telling me my job had been eliminated.

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No matter how people perform on any side, It sounds a little draining to work with people you don't like, regardless of the reason of dislike. Some people aren't in control of that so they just suck it up, whereas others get a say over their lives. The question is whether they will find sufficient incentive to prioritize company interests where they differ. One thinks of that when one joins a team with a lead that is…

All we need now is for generally disliked to become a protected class .

I'm fine with workers as a whole receiving more explicit protections as a class.

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Wow. I can literally feel my neck and shoulders bunching up just _reading_ this. If I wanted to live in a fear-based culture every day, I'd join the armed forces--at least that way I could shoot back.

FWIW, "culture of fear" hasn't been my experience at all, and as far as I know it isn't the experience of the people I work with. I can't speak for other teams/orgs (I work in the ML org) but in the years I've been here I could count on one hand the number of folks (at least among those I knew) who were let go. I don't worry or think about my job security; I think about building better software (and from what I can t…

Even if the scary culture deck isn't followed, a scary culture deck is an indicator of a bad culture...

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> The CEO ... believed that regularly letting people go was a way of eliminating bad apples and forcing people to work harder and smarter. Microsoft called it Stack Ranking.

Also known as "Management by Bestseller". Some CEO of a successful company writes a book claiming his management wisdom led to his company success and then a bunch of CEOs read the book and try to replicate the same success because they don't have any original ideas themselves. In this instance the CEO was GE's Jack Welch and his policy was 'rank and yank' Similarly, some CEO will write that you must have a mission s…

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Re: At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsettle the Ranks

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>> (Netflix employees, why do you accept this?) > Let me take a stab at this: money is good. Better than everywhere else, including other FAANGs, where you don't have to tolerate such policies?

If you want cash it is. Netflix salaries are generally $350k+. They only hire seniors, but that can mean 4-5 years of experience. Not even Google pays that kind of comp in salary.

"not even Google pays that kind of comp in salary" -- maybe not a deliberate equovocation, but total comp ("salary" plus stock) at google is definitely at or above that range.

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Don’t choose them. It sucks I just said that. But working at Google or Facebook is totally different. Netflix has a couple hundred engineers. They aren’t involved in selling ad funded content. I wouldn’t want to work at google or facebook

Netflix had 5,700 employees in 2017, and only a 'couple hundred' of those were engineers?

Yes
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