Apple’s repair kill switch hasn’t been activated yet • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple’s repair kill switch hasn’t been activated yet

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Post by acct1771 » Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 1:48 PM UTC

Spivak wrote: post #45

xg15 wrote: post #11

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> When the OS boots just make sure the user is made aware that they're running on unsupported hardware and recommend taking it to an authorized Apple repair shop if they want fix that. You mean like Nexus phones or Surface tablets shout out to the world on the boot screen that their bootloader is unlocked when you had the audacity to install a different OS?

I mean to be fair unlocking the bootloader pretty much destroys the security of the phone so if anything that message should be louder.

Depends what your threat model is.

Re: Apple’s repair kill switch hasn’t been activated yet

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Post by _emacsomancer_ » Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 5:17 PM UTC

CountSessine wrote: post #145

_emacsomancer_ wrote: post #98

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That's simply not true. My Samsung Galaxy S5 has a removable battery and headphone jack AND it's waterproof.

@foota says 'easier', not 'possible'. And the S6 doesn't have a removable battery, so what does that tell you about how Samsung felt about the engineering compromises they had to make with the S5 and all the rubber grommet-ing around its removable battery?

It's still pushing the "loss of features a,b... that are actually useful to users enables features x,y..." narrative, which is rather frustrating. The S5 isn't some marvel of modern engineering that is incredibly expensive to produce.

> And the S6 doesn't have a removable battery, so what does that tell you about how Samsung felt about the engineering compromises they had to make with the S5 and all the rubber grommet-ing around its removable battery?

And I haven't bought a Samsung (or other mobile phone) since the S5, so what does that tell you about the quality of the recent mobile phone offerings?

Re: Apple’s repair kill switch hasn’t been activated yet

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Post by greedo » Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 9:15 PM UTC

acct1771 wrote: post #160

danaris wrote: post #158

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...in order to allow them to continue to run. C'mon, at least finish the damn sentence. They were slowing down older devices to make sure that they wouldn't just literally shut down when the aging battery could no longer supply enough power for spikes of usage.

..by the new OS/kernel they forced you to install, without writing it to be friendly to the old phones they're forcing it onto.

Forced you to install?? No one forced you to install the newest version of iOS.

Re: Apple’s repair kill switch hasn’t been activated yet

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Post by wpdev_63 » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 6:02 AM UTC

ru999gol wrote: post #97

wpdev_63 wrote: post #43

While macbook is top notch hardware and MacOs is the best *nix os out there, this is the last straw. I will not being giving anymore money to apple with its anti-consumer business practices. Can some one recommend a good cloud MacOs vm solution for ios development? Or better yet, a rock solid hackintosh build that won't go to shit every update? I don't mind paying good money for a good product but this is ridiculous.

Your best bet with Mac OS X virtual machines is giving it a dedicated gpu using pcie passthrough with linux as the host.

I just tried running macos within vmware and I am excited to see it working with some patches.

MacOs is a nice *nix OS but I am not willing to shell out for the apple tax when ubuntu is a perfectly good workhorse.

Re: Apple’s repair kill switch hasn’t been activated yet

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Post by dwild » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 5:17 PM UTC

greedo wrote: post #163

acct1771 wrote: post #160

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..by the new OS/kernel they forced you to install, without writing it to be friendly to the old phones they're forcing it onto.

Forced you to install?? No one forced you to install the newest version of iOS.

Do Apple keep security updates over the old versions? That could be an easy way to be forced to update.

Theses 2 relatively recents vulnerabilities are pretty good reason to have to update. https://www.krackattacks.com/ https://www.armis.com/blueborne/

Re: Apple’s repair kill switch hasn’t been activated yet

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Post by koffiezet » Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 12:44 PM UTC

alkonaut wrote: post #135

tinus_hn wrote: post #100

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A major difference is that Apple does not sell parts to anyone who is not a licensed repair partner. All these screens you can put in your phone are fakes, refurbished or parts of stolen phones.

This is a good point: iphones are easily serviced physically but you may not get the parts. There have also been rumors that some parts would not be replaceable unless you used original parts but I have never had any problems with “original” parts (eg refurb screen with new 3rd party glass), obviously if a phone required parts one could not buy it can’t be considered user serviceable at all.

Apple even issued an iOS update once to address incompatibility issues with 3rd party replacement displays...