Tell that to my iPad 3, which got unusable just after one major iOS upgrade. So I'm a bit skeptical.
On the other hand, the iPad 4 has been supported for 5 years and the newer devices are still supported. So their current direction seems to be supporting the statements made in this talk.
Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible
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Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible
#162You know what helps products last longer and reduces waste at the same time? Repairability . The repairability of apple products is so poor that even Apple can't fix most of their own products without replacing surprisingly large portions of any given Apple device. End user repairability has been utterly neglected. Disassembly is frequently impossible without causing damage, and components such as batteries are frequ…
Not only are Apple products difficult and expensive to repair, but if you've done something with your device that Apple doesn't approve of and voided the warranty they may even refuse to repair it for you. You're essentially not allowed to perform iMac Pro upgrades on your own -- this voids the warranty. Only authorized third parties can do this. It's kind of ridiculous given that the design of the machine ensures th…
That's how warranties work.
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
they prevented spontaneous reboots. if you dont think apple was right, and the tech press was engaged in yellow journalism, you are wrong. apple was mitigating a very specific hardware failure.
Yes and no. the solution to the problem was the correct one, they just forgot one important detail. TELL THE USER! As a result, plenty of people, (including myself) noticing their two year phone starting to slow down quite a bit, decided to upgrade to the new and shiny model, instead of just replacing the battery, because who would have known that was the problem?!
They did issue a mea culpa and free replacement coverage in response to that criticism, but it took a while.
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I've replaced batteries in a 4 and 6 and neither has been that difficult with an iFixit guide
iFixIt are forced to use unofficial parts (Apple won't sell to them), unofficial guides (Apple won't provide the documentation), and no jigs/tools (proprietary). iFixIt aren't a good argument for why Apple's devices are easily repairable, they're an example of overcoming the roadblocks Apple puts between the consumer and repairing their Apple device.
No one is arguing that Apple's devices are easily reparable; they arguing that they're not as hard to repair as it is being suggested.
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I think if you try to extrapolate your or my willingness to repair something to the overall market for the iphone, it would be an error. What are the tradeoffs for a user replaceable battery? (really, this is something we should all know if we are arguing FOR replaceable batteries - maybe it's not the best idea? I would wager 99%+ of sales go to people who never want to touch the innards of a phone. And anecdotally,…
You don't necessarily have to fix it yourself, though. You could get it serviced by a professional, just like people do with a washing machine or a fridge.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't necessarily have to fix it yourself, though. You could get it serviced by a professional, just like people do with a washing machine or a fridge.
And that happens today every day with the iPhone? There are plenty of professionals, both authorized and unauthorized by Apple, that can do nearly any repair necessary on an iPhone.
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#167Of course, on the flip side I’m grateful for this reliability because there’s no way I want to replace my 2013 MBP with any current Apple offering. They’ve truly screwed their product line and I figure I can only wait one more generation for them to come up with something sensible.
Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible
#168You know what helps products last longer and reduces waste at the same time? Repairability . The repairability of apple products is so poor that even Apple can't fix most of their own products without replacing surprisingly large portions of any given Apple device. End user repairability has been utterly neglected. Disassembly is frequently impossible without causing damage, and components such as batteries are frequ…
Phone lifetime is bottle necked by performance moving on, not by wear and tear. Even so holes in the wall fix the common hardware issues for like $100.
We used to think the same about PCs, but now I haven't found an excuse to upgrade in seven years (this is equivalent to the time between the 3dfx Voodoo 1 and the Gforce FX 5x000 series!). I see absolutely no reason why the same isn't happening with phones, it just isn't that visible because of wear and tear replacement (and the various obsolescence tricks).
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#169I had a cheese-grater Mac Pro G5 for 8 years that still worked beautifully when I gave it away . I did upgrade memory at one point. An external display had a power supply problem after a few years. I replaced the graphics card. The ability to replace parts does help but I’ve also had a MBP since 2013 that has no accessible parts that also works fine. Of course, on the flip side I’m grateful for this reliability becau…
It's a 2009 Mac Pro. I don't notice any slowness or issues. Have not needed to replace anything. Have not upgraded beyond the original 8GB of RAM.
I just loaded El Cap on it this past year (latest OSX release it will take without a firmware upgrade) and plan to continue using it for years ...
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>Hey, it's great that they managed to get iOS 12 to run on a 5S. It probably runs like an absolute dog, but it runs! People are actually reporting that iOS 12 runs faster than iOS 11.
Yes but iOS 11 was really slow. Does it run faster than iOS 6?