Subject: Airbnb (2011) • Hacker News Board

Re: Subject: Airbnb (2011)

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Post by jMyles » Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 6:44 AM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #125

jMyles wrote: post #116

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In New York State. I pay the exorbitant taxes which pay for, among other things, protecting the water from the huge city down the road that I'm apparently "damaging" by living there a few weeks out of the year.

Sounds like you need to get a better tax accountant. If you only spend a few weeks a year in New York, then you shouldn't be paying much tax there at all.

...as I have stated above, I am from New York, just not in New York City. I typically spend several months out of the year there, not weeks.

Re: Subject: Airbnb (2011)

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Post by jMyles » Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 6:45 AM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #111

jMyles wrote: post #51

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Oh yeah? I'm alive during those 3-10 days. And I'm there. If that's not living, then where do I live? I don't have a long-term lease or anything similar. Do I not deserve the same quality of life and opportunities as people who happened to have been born in the East Village?

> Do I not deserve the same quality of life and opportunities as people who happened to have been born in the East Village? No, no more than I deserve a passport from every country I have ever traveled to. Most US states consider you a resident if you stay more than 90 days. That's when you'd be expected to change your driver's license, car registration, etc. You seem to be conflating the ideas of birthright and resi…

"Residency" in a state is a dumb concept to begin with. Why expect a technology startup to form itself in a such a way as to presume that it's meaningful? Isn't the whole point of a (good) technology startup to pose some meaningful critique to society?

Re: Subject: Airbnb (2011)

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Post by jMyles » Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 6:47 AM UTC

parthdesai wrote: post #157

CryptoPunk wrote: post #155

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I haven't seen any evidence that long-term residents contribute more to the tax base per capita. The spending differential between short term and long term renters is so large that it seems not just plausible, but likely, that the former contribute more on balance. >>A City should look after it's long term residents first and foremost. I don't see why it should. A city should look after those within its boundaries, w…

> A city should look after those within its boundaries, whether they're there for a day or a year. It shouldn't set up walls and promote long term residence over visits. So a citizen of a country and a visitor of the country should get equal rights and opportunities as well?

Rights? Absolutely. Surely you don't dispute that? Inalienable rights, endowed by creation and not by citizenship, are a cornerstone of the western tradition of liberty. I think it's racist and totalitarian to suggest walking that back.

Opportunities? Yeah, although that's not the case now, I'm ready for a world where people have the same opportunities regardless of the text on their passport.

Re: Subject: Airbnb (2011)

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Post by jl2718 » Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 6:55 PM UTC

dopamean wrote: post #142

jl2718 wrote: post #101

This is just from memory. Correct me if I’m wrong. 2005: mobileride.com in Boston, phone-based ridesharing with voluntary cash exchange, shut down in 2006 with regulatory warnings 2006: zipcar hires some of mobileride team and enters rideshare business with shared zipcar rentals among BU students 2007: zimride starts with pre-arranged rideshare at Cornell, works with campus transportation directly to keep it legal. 2…

> CALPERS is rescued from bankruptcy by investment in AirBnB and Uber I would like to know more.

Yeah, this is one of the real secrets of Silicon Valley. The biggest unicorns of the post-Facebook era were all created because of regulatory capture, not despite it.

Here are the pre-2010 VC investments: https://www.calpers.ca.gov/page/investments/asset-classes/pr...

And then in 2012, they moved into managed VC/PE through Blackrock, so it's a lot harder to trace, but... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-uber-idUSKBN0EH21I20...

CALPERS didn't 'start' Uber/AirBnB, but they did make huge bets on them at right about the time when regulation was threatening their existence, and then magically they became legal.

Not to mention all of Elon Musk's companies. He may not have needed the money, but easy passage through regulatory barriers definitely secured success.

Re: Subject: Airbnb (2011)

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Post by bluntfang » Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 1:18 AM UTC

jMyles wrote: post #160

bluntfang wrote: post #132

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You're ignoring the fact that 30million people already live there by posing that people shouldn't be doing that in this day and age. It doesn't matter what your opinion of those 30 million people are, the fact is that it is the current condition.

...but I can say the exact same thing: You're ignoring the fact that millions of people already live for only a few weeks out of the year there by posing that people shouldn't be doing that in this day and age. It doesn't matter what your opinion of those people are, the fact is that it is the current condition.

citation please