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References can say whatever they want.
References can be (and have been) sure for giving a review that keeps a person from getting a job. If I’m in a position where I can’t give a good reference, I don’t give a reference at all.
It was theorized that these darned menials just don't know how to behave.
I couldn't help but think that the whole article was some sort of recruiter trolling thing because outside of jobs that I've gotten in the past ... every recruiter has ghosted me. Amusing that they'd complain about it themselves.
Talking to or working with recruiters is just a constant pain. They don't know anything about the actual technical side of my job (those that say they do know even less it seems) and I have to do this dance with them to fit their expectations and such.
Can I please talk to the technical guy now? It will take us maybe 5 min to know if we should keep talking or not...
I got a call from an external recruiter: "I have a candidate who would be a great fit for your company." I'm just a lowly data scientist with no hiring power, and at that job the entire data science team was quitting. So, I mentioned that I didn't think the team was growing since it seemed to be actively shrinking with no new reqs that I was aware of. Recruiter immediately turned it around and said they could represe…
> Nope nope nope nope nope. I'm not giving you a resume that you can modify however you see fit, only to cold call and cold email it around to random people you find on linkedin. But... that's exactly the services a recruiter provides. Someone needs to make those calls if you want a new job, unless you feel that you're such a catch that you can rely exclusively on networking with former coworkers to find you new posi…
Maybe not exclusively, but having a strong network is one of (if not the) best ways to stay gainfully employed. The best jobs I’ve had were found through former coworkers, friends from conferences, or folks I’ve corresponded with on technical issues. Knowing and being respected by someone internal to a company typically bypasses the first two or three interview steps, insulates you from petty interviewers to a large degree, and overall greases the hiring wheels. Keeping in touch with former coworkers and cultivating friendships through conferences pays off tremendously!
I think it's reasonable, and would personally recommend, that you demand at least a verbal agreement that an offer is forthcoming before offering a reference.
Why do people use recruiters? %99 percent of the time you can figure out who the company is they are representing. Often recruiter sites will even list the companies they represent. EVERY startup I have worked for that does hiring, hates paying the %20+ markup for a hire. We would much rather give that cash to the new employee and use it to be more competitive. If there are two candidates with equal skill sets, one i…
This is almost exactly like the difference between good, high value sales, and telemarketing. One is a relationships game, one is a commodified numbers game. Don't be a commodity, and you won't be treated like one.
I got asked for SIX (6) professional references at my last interview. Is that normal? Seems ridiculously excessive.
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... is there Yelp for recruiters? Because I'd want to know a recruiter pulls stunts like that before I work with them.
Have you ever seen Yelp reviews for car salespeople? Recruiters are the used car salespeople of the hiring world. There’s no point in a review system where everyone averages out to 0 stars.
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... is there Yelp for recruiters? Because I'd want to know a recruiter pulls stunts like that before I work with them.
I don't think this would work. Anyone that is already using shady business practices wouldn't object to posting a few fake reviews of themselves and their competitors either.
I got an email from a local recruiter a few weeks ago and stepped outside during my lunch break to give her a call. On the initial phone call she asked me where I worked currently. After the call I stepped back into my work where I sit back to back with my manager. No more than 5 minutes later his phone rings, its the recruiter calling to see if they have any need of her services. I emailed her while he was on the ph…
I've been told this is illegal as the recruiter is harming your prospects at your current job...