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Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by boojums »

ProAm wrote: post #88
Zamicol wrote: post #81

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Same. It's going to take a while for me to move out of Github. I have a lot there over years and scripts that use Github. Also Gitlab's import is failing on some repos. It's also suddenly pushed me in a place where I have to suddenly find an alternative. It's going to take some time.

Can you just host a git server yourself? Not trying to be snarky but seems doable.

I have a self-hosted git instance on a VPS. It's trivial to set up for doing personal projects, but it would take quite a bit more work to properly set it up so other people could clone repos or contribute. Depending on what GitHub features Zamicol is using, it could be a pretty large project to self-host.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

ProAm wrote: post #88
Zamicol wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. It's going to take a while for me to move out of Github. I have a lot there over years and scripts that use Github. Also Gitlab's import is failing on some repos. It's also suddenly pushed me in a place where I have to suddenly find an alternative. It's going to take some time.

Can you just host a git server yourself? Not trying to be snarky but seems doable.

You can. It's very doable. Plenty of people do it.

But the real value of GH was "social coding" - open public access to open public projects.

That's going to fragment, even if GL takes over. And that will be a loss.

The real problem is the lack of open public server infrastructure. In the same way that everyone has access to a browser, everyone should have access to a private server, which is secure-by-default, controllably networked, super easy to set up with a selection of server apps that include social, commerce, payments, and public/private sharing of various kinds, and cheap to run.

The centralised consumer internet - where servers are far beyond the skill level of most users and can be a nightmare to set up and administer, even for professionals - is one of the reasons we have giant predators like MS and Facebook.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by meddlepal »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #159
bwb wrote: post #148

So weird, I don't understand the freakout. Microsoft is a solid company, I am totally fine with them buying it. What is with all this craziness?

Microsoft is where good products go to die. They change products and the communities and cultures associated with those projects. They are a big machine that has to please shareholders, and growth is difficult when you’re that big, so there are “hard choices” that can be made abruptly. These choices are often not to the benefit of the existing communities. Ignore anyone who brings up “Embrace, extend, extinguish”. I’…

No... Oracle is where projects go to die. Microsoft has other issues and it like many companies has successfully murdered good products (Skype), but it also realizes how important ecosystem is. Oracle just rapes and pillages companies and tech.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by maccard »

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #149
bwb wrote: post #148

So weird, I don't understand the freakout. Microsoft is a solid company, I am totally fine with them buying it. What is with all this craziness?

Go look up the October Papers. "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish".

From 20 years ago. Meanwhile, in the last 5 years they have opened up huge amounts of C#, are the most active organisation on the largest open source host o the internet, lead the development of one of the most popular open source editors, provide rock solid Linux support on their cloud offerings, and have been jnvolved in huge amounts of publicly available research.

I’m not saying they get a free pass for it, but they’ve more than earned their trust back over the last decade.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by trendia »

nodesocket wrote: post #158
greenhatman wrote: post #144

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I can tell you that my Facebook feed is dead. Very few post anymore. I don't really post anymore either. I just have it for events.

March 27th hight of delete facebook "movement" FB stock reaches low of $152.22. Since then, it has rocked up to new highs. Moral of the story as this keeps on happening over and over again (United Airlines, Tesla, Apple, Wells Fargo), do the opposite of media/HN outrage and buy emotional outrage dips... Profit.

Facebook's earnings are driven by their ad network, not user interaction.

That is, as long as Facebook is able to identify and track an individual, they can make money even if the user never spends much time on Facebook.

So, stock price is not an indicator of Facebook usage.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by parthdesai »

nodesocket wrote: post #158
greenhatman wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can tell you that my Facebook feed is dead. Very few post anymore. I don't really post anymore either. I just have it for events.

March 27th hight of delete facebook "movement" FB stock reaches low of $152.22. Since then, it has rocked up to new highs. Moral of the story as this keeps on happening over and over again (United Airlines, Tesla, Apple, Wells Fargo), do the opposite of media/HN outrage and buy emotional outrage dips... Profit.

i found it very funny when i saw some people be a part '#deletefacebook' movement and go on to post on Instagram.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by rafaelvasco »

greenhatman wrote: post #142
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #78

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This is exactly right. However, just because some projects can't up and move on a moment's notice doesn't mean the ball isn't rolling.

Yea, my projects are still on there. But it's not going to stay there. It's just there because I've been too busy to investigate alternatives and move. But I will in a week or three.

Why move though ? Just curious.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by squarefoot »

mikece wrote: post #91
kartan wrote: post #6

Nat is being really smart here. It should not backfire unless he acts pedantic or insults Redditors intelligence. I think that both are unlikely. Maybe Nat is trying to counteract any PR damage to GitHub, or maybe he just wants to see how much can skyrocket his account's karma. If I was in his situation I will be happy doing it for both reasons.

How long is it going to take Redditors / HN readers / open source advocates to realize that Nat is one of them and that being an employee of Microsoft or Microsoft's designee to lead GitHub doesn't diminish this?

Sorry but this is the corporate world. When an employee of a company speaks about an asset of that company, he represents the company views, not his ones.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by superflyguy »

penagwin wrote: post #60
mythrwy wrote: post #56

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Not for 24 hours it isn't.

Right, but I doubt it'll continue at such a rate. This kind of stuff happens a lot (netflix making it harder to use VPNs, the recent facebook stuff, etc), "mass of people leave" but in reality it's a very small group, who are rather loud. Plus, mirroring isn't the same as leaving (IMO). To me it's more of a precaution.

Right, I mean it can't continue at that rate forever - the numbers don't support that hypothesis.
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