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Famous for its resistance to immigration, Japan opens its doors
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Re: Famous for its resistance to immigration, Japan opens its doors
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That figure of 10 years for a probably successful permanent residency application is out of date. It's apparently more like 5 years these days.
If you have a highskilled visa with 80 points, it is 1 year (however, it takes 10 months after application to get it). High-skilled visas are not connected to an employer and there is no lottery system.beats the hell out of US policies...
I find High Skilled visa to be more useful than a PR. Your parents/Spouse parents can stay with you for longer time ( provided you have a kid less than 7(?) year old)
Re: Famous for its resistance to immigration, Japan opens its doors
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Which clause are you referring to ? When I applied to the visa last year, I had to justify my salary, at that time in the UK, with proof. Checking my application, I got 40 points for having > 10M JPY in the 35-40 year range.
Note 2 on this: http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/newimmiact_3/en/pdf/171110_point_c... "Checking my application, I got 40 points for having > 10M JPY in the 35-40 year range." Were you paid that by a Japanese company? The clarification on Note 2 seems to imply that they'll consider any income from a Japanese company (i.e. in the case of transfers).
I applied a bit more than one year ago, I wonder if they changed that section then.
Re: Famous for its resistance to immigration, Japan opens its doors
#164The article doesn't mention, but Japan also took steps to make immigration easier for skilled workers with the Highly-Skilled Foreign Professional visa [1] based on this point system [2]. Can even qualify for permanent residency in as little as one year if you score 80+ points. [1] http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/newimmiact_3/en/ [2] http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/newimmiact_3/en/pdf/171110_leaflet...
Pulling out the hacker part: 40 points for > 10 million yen salary ($91,000) 10 for a bachelors 20 for a masters 30 for a phd 20 for 10 years experience 15 for 7 years experience 10 for 5 years experience 5 for 3 years experience age 15 for And bonuses for language proficiency, working for small-medium companies that spend on R and D (startups?) and holding a foreign qualification. With the right salary ($91K/year):…
Re: Famous for its resistance to immigration, Japan opens its doors
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Every time this pops up, I feel compelled to point out that in the 8 years I've lived in Japan (over a 10 year period), I haven't found this to be true. There is racism in Japan, just like everywhere. When I lived in Canada, I saw a sales manager where I was working throwing how CVs with Indian names. I asked him what he was doing. "There's no point in hiring someone whose name I can't even pronounce", was the reply.…
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Never set foot in Japan myself but your overall view falls in line with those of almost every foreigner in Japan I've ever followed. Something I find that's less discussed, probably because I only frequent English speaking sites, is specifically other Asians in Japan and I'm wondering if someone here can shed some light on that. The impression I have from reading random accounts is K…
Another acquaintance is dark skinned (I can't remember where he's from) and has similar Japanese ability. I think he's has a softer landing. Even I get it pretty easy sometimes and my Japanese ability (both language and culture) is pretty middling. There is a kind of role in society where you can be the "friendly gaikokujin". Everybody wants to talk to you and learn about foreign places. They want to know how cultures are different in other places. If they feel like they can treat you as a Japanese person, you get a kind of celebrity treatment. I think this is probably only the case in the country side, where I live. In the big cities, they see enough foreigners that it isn't so special.
Most problems I've seen come from people using their "Super Gaijin Powers" (can't remember where I heard that first -- I didn't make it up). Basically if you look different, you can often ignore societal rules with no apparent penalty. You do whatever you want. You dress however you want. You say whatever you want. Nobody will complain. But there are huge unseen penalties and when those penalties become apparent, people get very angry.
A good example of this that I saw often when I was working as an assistant language teacher at the high school was foreigners not going to work parties. At the end of special events (and randomly through the year) there are parties where you go and eat and drink (often a lot). Some of my colleagues just refused to go because they said that they couldn't speak to anyone, didn't drink, didn't like the food, it was too expensive, etc, etc. I would tell them, "You have to go. If you don't go, you won't get along with anyone." They would reply, "Nobody cares if I go. I just tell them I'm not going and nobody says a thing." One or two years later: "Everybody is so unfriendly. Nobody talks to me. They all avoid me. They never listen to my ideas. They pretend that they don't speak English, even though I know they do. They are all two faced bastards. I can't wait to get out of here". It's so frustratingly predictable...
But, anyway to the point: If you look Japanese enough and speak Japanese well, then you probably won't get away with abusing your gaijin super powers -- so in the long run it might be easier. Even for me, I had bit of a health problem and had to cut out drinking for a few months. It happened to coincide with drinking event -- which I attended but where I drank tea. One of the other teachers was so upset that he lodged a formal complaint against me (it's on my permanent record!) I later apologised profusely and went out drinking with him and we were the best of friends after that. There is no way that he would have complained if he didn't consider me "close enough" to Japanese.
Re: Famous for its resistance to immigration, Japan opens its doors
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have a highskilled visa with 80 points, it is 1 year (however, it takes 10 months after application to get it). High-skilled visas are not connected to an employer and there is no lottery system.beats the hell out of US policies...
FWIW I got it in less than a month. I find High Skilled visa to be more useful than a PR. Your parents/Spouse parents can stay with you for longer time ( provided you have a kid less than 7(?) year old)
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Note 2 on this: http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/newimmiact_3/en/pdf/171110_point_c... "Checking my application, I got 40 points for having > 10M JPY in the 35-40 year range." Were you paid that by a Japanese company? The clarification on Note 2 seems to imply that they'll consider any income from a Japanese company (i.e. in the case of transfers).
The company I was working for before had no link whatsoever with Japan. But you're right that the wording there is unambiguously referring to the sponsoring company's salary. I applied a bit more than one year ago, I wonder if they changed that section then.
It wouldn't surprise me much to find out that the rules are different from what's written.
Re: Famous for its resistance to immigration, Japan opens its doors
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Can't say about Peru, but the second and third generation Japanese community here in Brazil is massive and stories of some of them going to work/live at Japan are common.
Any anecdata about how open this is to neighbours of non-Japanese descent? For example if there are Japanese schools (are there?) do they admit lots of others, and do such students (or half- or quater-Japanese ones) get treated as insiders? I knew there was a huge community but know very little about it.
Don't know about japanese exclusive schools, Liberdade¹ is the biggest japanese community outside of Japan, but I don't think that there's any restrictions about students or anything like that in the schools of the district, Brazil has an immense amount of diversity, japanese brazilians are mostly treated the same as any other brazilians and are for the most part integrated in our country general culture.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberdade_(district_of_São_Pau...