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Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by StudentStuff »

kleiba wrote: post #120
xenophonf wrote: post #108

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I wonder what's causing that on your computer, because I'm running Firefox on a late-2011 MacBook Pro without any issues, and that's with a ton of tabs opened (including a bunch of pinned tabs running multiple instances of Office 365 in separate containers, Slack, and so forth) and the usual crowd of extensions (UBO et al). It's bouncing between 0 and 5% CPU utilization.

I experience regular "gray outs" on Ubuntu with FF hogging so many resources that eventually the only thing that works is killing it. This happens to me both on a 5 year old desktop as well as on old Lenovo Thinkpad (X2002s). However, I believe flashplayer to be the culprit as I often have quite a few youtube tabs open -- obviously never more than one playing though.

Why are you using Flash Player for Youtube? I've gone nearly 4 years since installing Flash on any machine, its pretty well unnecessary today. If you want to reduce performance though, using Flash is one way of going about it.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by bscphil »

yborg wrote: post #67
morsch wrote: post #21

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Mozilla owns Pocket. They're not calling them Pocket Sponsored Stories to be cute. You, too, can now buy screen space in the premiere open-source browser: https://getpocket.com/sponsor I think it's a disgrace.

I wish someone with the time would start producing a "De-Mozilla'ed" fork a la Chromium. I think Firefox has gotten to that point, things like this and the Mr. Robot fiasco indicate the project needs to be saved from itself.

Good news, that's what I've been working on here: https://github.com/afontenot/firefox-clean

The basically idea is not to "fork" Firefox per se, but to maintain a set of patches that are appropriate for a user-respecting privacy friendly browser. If a true fork one day becomes necessary, this would be a nice starting point. For now, I'm just trying to completely remove all bad code.

You do have to build the source yourself, however, since binaries can't be distributed without violating Mozilla's trademark.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by dewey »

superkuh wrote: post #125
metalliqaz wrote: post #124

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He never figured out how to use bookmarks.

I have about 20k bookmarks.

Do you ever use any of them or get back to them? I used to do that too on a smaller scale but realized after a while that I don't really need them to find things as the browsers address bar is usually enough and worst case I can fall back to a web search.

I never really had a case where I couldn't find something again that I would've found through my bookmarks as these are usually not tagged well or there's not enough information in the URL / title of the bookmark to have a big surface area for a fuzzy search.

It took me a while to realize that but I noticed that it's very refreshing to keep less things around and try to hoard them (bookmarks, browser tabs, downloaded movies, shows, music) like I did in the past. After observing it for a while I realized that it never happened that I couldn't find something again or re-download if necessary.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by bscphil »

unethical_ban wrote: post #141
Xylakant wrote: post #90

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I have it enabled and I can attest that it breaks a fair amount of sites. I think it’s fair to expose that as an expert level setting. It could benefit from a bit of advertising though.

I wonder if it can be implemented on a per-site basis, like a security policy. Exception: gitea uses Github oauth Exception: unbury.me uses Google login etc Default: Full FPI

This is extremely easy to do in uMatrix. If you don't want to use the other features, just set a default policy of allow all, then block third party cookies. You can then selectively allow access to cookies on a site by site basis.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by fernandotakai »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #145
godelski wrote: post #68

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Anyone else get the bug where it doesn't auto-fill (shows grey box), you right click and it shows that you have no stored logins, and then once you close that (right click) menu you are prompted like normal? This happens to me frequently, though seems to be specific sites.

Mine's worse. Literally every other login fails. I don't get a rejection or anything--the box will light up and turn red--but the vault will appear empty and none of the sites will be found. I have to log out of it and login a second time (meaning put in my giant master password), and only the second time will it find the stuff in my vault correctly. It's maddening.

uh. i thought i was the only one. sometimes i have lastpass tell me that i have no internet connection -- while i'm trying to login into lastpass to login into another site.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by clumsysmurf »

kbrosnan wrote: post #159
clumsysmurf wrote: post #134

One killer feature from Safari missing still is 'Show tab overview' with thumbnails of all your tabs ... anyone know of a well maintained plugin that does something like this? I think it should be built into the browser.

browser.ctrlTab.previews in about:conifg though the feature may be in various states of broken as it is not exposed anywhere

Yes - I use this, and it works for a few things, but Safari shows a grid which is easier to see when you have many tabs. Thanks for the tip.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by sp332 »

cpeterso wrote: post #154
sp332 wrote: post #84

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Ah, I was wondering why my scrolling was getting "fling"ed so much on Nightly. It's kinda unusable because 2/3 of the time, when I lift my thumb off the screen, it gets interpreted as a fling. Maybe I'll get used to being very careful, but for now I'm glad to know there's a toggle.

There are still fling bugs to be fixed. :) Feel free to file a bug in Bugzilla that blocks bug 1448439. Perhaps you are seeing one of these known bugs: * Weirdness at end of Fennec fling. Don't send duplicate DOM 'scroll' event for sub-pixel scrolling: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230176 * Scrolling in Android has a distinct hitch when releasing finger: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14…

Thanks, I had noticed the behavior in 1425739 but assumed it was because of my bulky screen protector.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by hedning »

mercer wrote: post #158
xenophonf wrote: post #108

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I wonder what's causing that on your computer, because I'm running Firefox on a late-2011 MacBook Pro without any issues, and that's with a ton of tabs opened (including a bunch of pinned tabs running multiple instances of Office 365 in separate containers, Slack, and so forth) and the usual crowd of extensions (UBO et al). It's bouncing between 0 and 5% CPU utilization.

I've tried figuring it out, but haven't been able to pin it down. Is it even possible to check tab resource usage the way I can in Chrome? If not, that's another reason I'd probably keep coming back to the latter. Thing is, it's not even that I have so many tabs open. It's always been fewer than Chrome, and with fewer active extensions to boot. Furthermore, it also happens on my other computer. The other one has 16 G…

There's about:performance but it's not as full featured as chrome's resource usage view unfortunately.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by excalibur »

Running 60, installed and configured the group policy templates. Still can't get Firefox to pull trusted root certificates from the Windows certificate store. #headdesk

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by FullyFunctional »

superdaniel wrote: post #2

I'm glad that they have released support for the Web Authentication API. Hopefully I won't need to use Chrome for websites I choose to be more secure with. Although, with a quick look it seems like I still can't use U2F with Google on Firefox.

Alas, I'm completely unable to get the soft token to work (after enabling it in config:about). It even fail on https://u2f.bin.coffee/ which seems to claim it should work.

It's a usability trade off; I have a physical key, but I'm asked to authenticate 20+ times a day which make it a pain on my port-limited MacBook Pro.

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