Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it

Post by eitally » Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 7:14 PM UTC

ben_w wrote: post #122

eitally wrote: post #97

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Your employer will agree to their terms on your behalf, and if you are not comfortable with either that process or the terms, you are welcome to terminate your employment. This is no different from companies accepting ToS/EULA from any other technology vendor. FWIW, Google's commercial terms are not the same as consumer terms ... again, like every other software vendor.

> you are welcome to terminate your employment. That fails the test: > Consent should not be regarded as freely given if the data subject has no genuine or free choice or is unable to refuse or withdraw consent without detriment.

My understanding is that the end user is not the subject in a commercial contract. The licensing entity (the business) is the end user and as a result, if they accept the terms, which them apply to all employees, it's irrelevant whether the consumer terms apply to the employees' individual cases or not because they're no the licensee/subject.

Again, this is how things generally work in commercial contracts outside of GDPR (including Safe Harbor and EU/95/46 before it), and I don't see why this would be different.

Post by grogenaut » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 8:30 PM UTC

product50 wrote: post #158

grogenaut wrote: post #129

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What data, apart from your anecdotal data, shows that sharing and caring about FB post is up?

FB earnings are up and their monthly active users are rising. That suggests that your single anecdotal experience of your friends not using fb is incorrect. Also, OP was the first one to make the assertion that fb is losing users and thus the onus falls on him to prove vs. me trying to disprove it. I know it is not the answer you want to hear but FB is doing well in terms of their user growth. Get over it.

I don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just pointing out you are both trying to back up assertions with no direct data. Facebook earnings could easily be from increased from ads even over decreased users. And users increasing doesn't really tell me if that's up or down from previous.

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