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Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Novichok agents are hardly untraceable. Like pretty much every other compound, you can detect them using mass spectrometry ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_spectrometry ).

.. and in order to do so, you must of course have access to the materials first of all, in order to create the spectrometric signature upon which your comparison - and thus, evidence - is made. So, no. You can't claim its only available in Russia, if you've positively identified it using these signatures .. since you'd have had to have the material to compare with, yourself ..

I didn't claim that only Russia was able to make the chemical agent.

I don't entertain the false flag narrative because it is so difficult to disprove. If the UK was willing to kill this man and endanger the lives of their citizens to destabilize Russian relations, then pretty much anything is possible. Even if this was some special nerve agent that only Russia is able to make, the UK could simply kill the man with a similar nerve agent and claim it was the special Russia one. If you can't trust the UK government here, than they could easily fabricate or claim they have hard proof of Russian involvement. You also have to ask yourself what hard proof of Russian involvement would even look like, and how realistic it would be to find such a thing even if Russia were to be involved.

Re: Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at London embassy

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Sure, but it overcomplicates something that doesn't need to be made more complicated to be understood. If the simplest explanation works then that is usually the right one. In this case: Assange/WikiLeaks have an agenda: to hit America where it hurts, by exposing their actions on the world stage and by creating as big a rift between the different political sides in the United States as they could manage. In that they…

> In this case: Assange/WikiLeaks have an agenda: to hit America where it hurts, by exposing their actions on the world stage and by creating as big a rift between the different political sides in the United States as they could manage That might explain Assange’s US-related actions, but not those related to Catalonia or a number of other issues, all of which align with Russian interests and Russian propaganda conduc…

A couple of days later... So, re-reading this thread you could make the same case for Trump being a Russian asset based on the 'actions that make no sense' including not implementing the sanctions, the pro-Russian modifications of the republican platform regarding the US position vs Ukraine and so on. And yet, I'd find - absent proof - that just as hard to stomach as seeing Assange as a Russian agent.
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